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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 162 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

I've been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.

edit: I did say political

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reverse the brain drain of the 1930s.

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[–] AllPintsNorth@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I moved from the U.S. to Germany in 2020.

My running joke since was wondering whether I’d be eligible for citizenship or asylum first….

Almost over the finish line for being eligible for citizenship, but I feel like asylum isn’t that far off.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't need asylum if you are a legal resident. Asylum is the most insecure form of permit, especially in Germany, where the society is currently getting more and more hostile to migration, including labeling countries like Afghanistan as "safe countries of origin" and organizing deportations with the Taliban.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Canada seriously needs to make a big show of offering the same thing. It's now or never.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (17 children)

We don't have the housing. Carney needs to get the government into home building yesterday.

[–] match@pawb.social 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's the perfect time to use that Canadian steel and aluminum

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[–] gusgalarnyk 83 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I left the US for Germany almost 2 years ago now. I'm a software/aerospace engineer. It was like time traveling to the future in some ways, worker right are way better here and 6 weeks of vacation has cemented that I'll never go back.

Now I just need to do my part to make sure conservatives don't ruin this country any more than they already have. Not excited for Merz to get into power and continue selling out his country.

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[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 62 points 1 week ago (36 children)

I'm doing my part fleeing to Sweden, granted I'm a programmer and game dev so not a scientist. I'm done letting the US profit off my skills though

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 38 points 1 week ago

You will like it, Sweden has a nice relaxed working culture where we actually care about how people feel at work.

[–] orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome home to the capital country of gaming!

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[–] mjsaber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago

I'm in the process of getting certified to be a nurse in New Zealand. Fuck this country.

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[–] Horsey 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Myself included lol.

Moi mΓͺme aussi lol

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

side note: Brain drain from an adversary is one of the reasons why the US completed the Manhattan Project faster. History repeating itself. Maybe this time around the fusion project is completed faster with the intention of long term peace without the need for deterrence.

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[–] werefreeatlast 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like the amount of stupid per unit volume in America is indeed increasing.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Left for Taiwan in the first Trump presidency. Haven't been back since.

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[–] TylerBourbon 39 points 1 week ago

I wish I was a scientist so I could go too.

And frankly, this is just another parallel to WWII and Nazi Germany's rise. The non-fascist scientists and people fled to safer pastures.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Can some of y’all flee to Canada instead?

We have French Canada if your dead set on speaking French.

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[–] WorkersCorps@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The atmosphere is nearly perfect for an EU resurgence. American workers potentially willing to leave is only one piece of it. You also have interest in drawing together as a continent against a new shared enemy. Hell even Germany is ready to drop their spending limitations to actually try to rise to the occasion.

I really wish they'd take it a step further and pump heavy investment into the region - and not just defense. Isn't it exactly the right time to build European industries to replace the American ones they are no longer sure they can trust?

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[–] andyburke@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago (14 children)

$16M for 3 scientists for 3 years? I hope those scientists are bringing their whole labs with them?

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago

Why not? That's ~1.77 million per year per scientist. Yes, that is a lot of money. But if you think about it, those scientists might be able to start multibillion dollar economies. They can train hundreds of experts in their field. And some lousy CEO of some stupid company gets paid more

[–] professionalspooner@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe they are just being well paid

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a foreign concept to American scientists.

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Top level scientists/professors are like famous sports players. Recruiting them is a prestige boost which attracts students and employees, but also can have very direct results if they manage some breakthrough or novel solution.

Talking about labs. Building, organizing and running those is far harder than spending money on equipment usually.

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[–] Eddbopkins 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Back in 1945 you know how many people America took in who did any kind of scientific work. wernher von braun may be the most famous. That was just to insure that America would be leaders in the world. Now it doesn't seem America wants to have anything to do with leading the world in any field to progresses america as a country.

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[–] arotrios 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Y'all need data analysts?

Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?

I know a guy...

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[–] zlatiah 20 points 1 week ago

This French university made the news on scientific news sources a week or so ago when they announced this, I thought it was a fluke... glad to see they are getting applicants

Of course, I am fully aware that this is just one isolated case since US-based academics would never think of applying for European positions. Most US-based academics would never know resources such as EURAXESS which hosts many academic positions in Eurozone and beyond, or jobrxiv dot org which also includes lots of European academic positions. This is not mentioning country-specific resources such as when I was lurking on jobbnorge dot no for Norwegian jobs, and a personal communication I had with someone at University of Gothenburg who was literally asking me where to look for US-based postdoctoral applicants...

Anyway what was I saying

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] zeropublix@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Germany needs plenty. But only the cheap ones with expert knowledge. That’s not how they would word it though

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[–] iAvicenna 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Makes me wonder where all that money is going? I mean they must be making billions in those funding cuts. Are they all gonna funnel that money into Russia and tech oligarch's pockets?

[–] lepinkainen 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

They want to create an oligarchy in the US.

Privatise everything and give them to their billionaire buddies to run.

Imagine the money you can make by selling weather data, gathered by government sensors. Or a private VA organisation with an exclusive contract with the government.

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