Everybody will just buy more shit tomorrow. Are you people afraid of going into the streets?
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I work at a Costco in Western Canada. Today (28th) was a little slower than slower than normal, but well inside the normal ups and downs we see. All of us are curious to see if the 1st is busier to make up for it.
I didn't know about this and still participated by accident. What I'm trying to say is that if 1 day counts as boycott I'm severely concerned by the overreliance the general public has on those companies.
Who organizes this shit????? Can I learn about this ahead of time so I don't see the post literally at 10:30 on the night of the same day??
Like literally
Do you know about the nationwide general strike on March 14th?
ive seen this promoted all over the place for weeks
If anyone is interested this was apparently started by a group called The People's Union. I get that 1 day isn't that impactful in the grand scheme of things, cuz it's not. But it's about organization. It's about coordination.
It's good people are doing something, but I can't help but feel it would be way more effective if it was a sustained boycott of targeted businesses. Not buying anything for a year is impossible, but not buying anything from one particular store for a year is possible.
Could you imagine the dread corporate would feel if they saw Banana Republic get boycotted for 2025 and looked at the boycott schedule and their name was listed under 2026?
Yup. One day of no shopping means the big corps just weather a day of lower purchases and the next day people will be buying the stuff they skipped out on friday. It's hardly a noticeable blip to them.
Yeah as much as id like to see pressures on some corps, I think it is better to target certain corps.
One day, as you said you are just buying the next day, or back loading a day earlier.
Coprporates only understand 10k/10Qs, market caps, and wealth increase for shareholders. So, that's right, quarter on quarter or year on year trend movements will be the only thing because certain EPS is not reached because sales was low, this is the only metric they will understand. I was watching a documentary once and there was a town or group of villages in India somewhere which had made a system to have near zero wastes in their eco system of crops and gardens and they went pretty much self reliant... I was like why can't we do that... I don't know whether that requires lots of research or whatnot.... But if any significant group of people can do that, all of the system will come begging.... On their knees or will try to destroy the doers.
Without any replacements, this boycott isn't going to last. We should be promoting alternatives with the blackout too. Costco isn't available everywhere.
As expected, nothing came of this. Don't be pathetic. Stop buying from red states and wacko Trump supporters everyday.
Stop buying from red states
No wheat? Even imported Italian pasta is made from American Durum wheat. (Yes Italian pasta companies import US wheat, make pasta from it and then sell it as Italian.)
Organising is now just posting the day of
So we dont buy anything for one day and then go back to ordering on amazon and that will have an effect on… something. Ok got it. Idiots.
HEY YOU'RE RIGHT! The people organizing and participating in this believe that this one day of action will solve every abstract problem that exists! I also have simplistic understanding of protest and goals! I also prefer to be snarky at anyone attempting to voice dissent towards the insanity happening in our country!
I'm really sorry to go over the top here, but seriously, there's no fucking handbook for what we're going through right now. There's no questgiver telling us concrete steps to take down objectively evil people. There's just people trying to figure out how to connect with each other and how to collectively voice dissent. Maybe we should give more credit to people doing imperfect things than to those doing nothing other than pointing out how imperfectly those things are.
The snarky attitude is totally uncalled for, and you're arguing a point nobody has made.
Nobody has said this will solve everything, but this isn't a new idea, and I've yet to see any evidence it solves anything at all.
Even if we did get a statistically significant number of people to take part, they'll just buy shit the next few days after instead.
If you want to get people on board, you need to provide some evidence it will actually do something at all
It's supposed to be baby steps towards concrete action.
Kind of like if a smoker goes a whole day without smoking. Yea in the long run it's not gonna make a difference, but it's a start towards breaking the addiction.
Got food at the local donut shop. Ate lunch and dinner from a food truck. The real way this could work is if everyone does this everyday and avoids non local chains.
Like, i didn't buy anything today not because of protest, just because i didn't need too... Stuff like this will not be noticed
Shit, I wasn't on here. Tell you what, make another Devil's Panties Blackout in six months. We encourage people to stock up on canned foods that can be eaten later, and bathroom items, soaps, whatever. Friend groups are established for the blackout just in case somebody loses something. It might last more than a week, maybe even a month. We should post this in streamers' chats to encourage people to spread the word; this will be on fun streams where it will not be intrusive. Make sure to target people who can remember to do things, or use it as an opportunity to help people to remember schedules. People will stay with each other to get along.
The comic has nothing to do with it outside of supporting it in todays comic. Here is a better reference for the actions https://moist.catsweat.com/m/[email protected]/t/880512/Upcoming-US-Protests
There's no way this had any affect. I like the sentiment but it won't work.
Businesses seeing a drop in revenue as a result of a random patchwork organized online effort for a temporary boycott won't have any effect?
Of course it can. If businesses see it's possible for people to exercise economic control against them, it makes it just that bit harder for them to expect no resistance going forward. People see the result of their actions and are more likely to engage in other boycotts going forward, and businesses then have to be afraid of future targeted boycotts hitting them harder.
You don't successfully get a company to back down on anything with the threat of a boycott, if that company has no reason to believe you're even capable of boycotting them. Doing something like this makes it abundantly clear that it's possible, and thus increases the likelihood of businesses taking future boycotts seriously.
And if you want to say it won't work, then I'll tell you that as a cashier at a smaller local grocery store, today I saw nearly half of all transactions done in cash (usually it's 1 in every 5-6) to avoid giving credit card companies money, an older woman explicitly mentioning that she was disappointed she had to use her Visa card because she didn't have cash on her, and on top of that, I also saw a reduction in purchases of non-necessities (about a 20-30% overall volume reduction in total purchases) on top of people swapping out brands I'd usually see purchased like Coca Cola with smaller local drinks instead.
If this is what's happening at the small local grocery chain, then you might be able to imagine what was happening (or rather, not happening at all due to people staying home) to the large big box store down the road.
Businesses seeing a drop in revenue as a result of a random patchwork organized online effort for a temporary boycott won't have any effect?
No it won’t. This just means people buy the stuff the another day and is absolutely meaningless to their bottom line
I think it could work but literally no one knew about it today, and so if there is a dip there is no way for anyone to attach it to a movement vs a quiet Friday. I didn’t even figure it out until yesterday on blue sky.
I found out about this yesterday. I don’t know what happened to the messaging, but lucky i saw it in time on blue sky.
Retailers don't give a shit about nobody buying anything on a particular day, if they're all back the next.
This is a stupid idea.
"That's not going to do anything" They said, sitting on their asses, doing nothing, while others fought for change.
You can find this style of argument in virtually all discussions about protests and about whether they are okay or even effective.
Idk & idgaf, but you can't deny, that this makes the whole issue a lot more visible than just doing nothing.
First, not going shopping for one day isn't "fighting for change", it's doing the bare minimum to feel like you're actually doing something.
Second, boycotts work, absolutely, but this isn't a boycott. This won't affect the overall sales numbers of these stores, just move them to a different day.
Finally, what are their demands exactly?
you can't deny, that this makes the whole issue a lot more visible than just doing nothing.
Yes I can. Because what fucking issue is this about? What are the goals this protest is trying to achieve?
Making a fuss about nothing, and doing nothing with any lasting effect, is not a protest.
I mean the point of it isn't to deprive retailers of one day of profits altogether, it's to show how much a sustained refusal to shop would hurt them. Whether or not it's effective depends on how many people participate.
I don't think it's going to be effective, but I'm not going to be the reason it's not. I can pick up my dish soap tomorrow
I don't knock the fact that things need to be done, but a general strike would be more effective if you want them to notice what an economic blackout would look and feel like. No company is looking at profits at a one day scale, so point blank, no one up top is going to see any effect from this. The fact people are still going to get what they need, but just on a different day means the only ones who noticed this or were affected by it were the ones who participated not the rich fucks getting paid tomorrow instead of today. We need to work towards tangible goals that have something that can be measured and affect real change, not cause more people to feel apethic when their efforts go unrewarded.
Another thing it does is helps people realize what power they have, even if one day of boycotting has zero impact on the economy or businesses. It gets those people who are participating started taking action, and thinking about their actions in the context of politics.
It's a very easy first step, and if people find that they can do a day, maybe they'll be okay with trying a week next time, or maybe showing up at a town hall seems easier. This is arguably more about getting people involved in the movement than actually sticking it to the corporations/oligarchy. That will come. But asking people who live paycheck to paycheck to boycott corporations for more than 2 weeks would be a huge ask without building up to it first.
No Restaurants? What? We're afraid the authentic turkish food place down the block is colluding with Trump, now? Idiocy.