I seriously don't think I've ever encountered another person to get into much shite and face zero consequences.
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2025
357 points (99.7% liked)
News
25410 readers
4793 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
C'mon America.
It's called impeachment.
Cheer Justice Roberts stayed this order
or what? Until the courts actually start doing things and not just talk about them, they will always be just so much fetid air
Is this the same one that SCOTUS just overruled the other night?
Ah yes this is gonna be awesome
Not only fuck around with the will of the voters.
But actively messing with the execution of presumably why they were voted in the first place.
Yeah this is seriously gonna make the people who voted him don't think about how the judges want to limit the will of the people AT ALL
Yeah because you see, you might have voted for this guy. Thinking your vote matters
But the one controlling the country, deciding its fate and yours , is us in here, not you
And you will never have a way to stop us
Yeah this is surely a winning non alienating strategy. Props to whoever thought of it this will get the Dems soooooo many votes man, like, you wouldn't believe it
Too bad our SCOTUS is corrupt.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/us/politics/trump-usaid-foreign-aid.html
Trump gonna slap 25% tariffs on the judges. That'll teach them, MAGA!
What is the date and time required by the judge? That is PROTEST O'CLOCK, my people.
Whatcha gonna do, judge? Ask again? Wait until deadlines pass? Delay has always been Trumpy Dumpty's strategy to maximize harm. No conquences means nothing to lose.
But instead of poking a dictator who doesn't GAF, how about holding congress Republicans accountable since, you know, they "control" finances. You start dragging them out in cuffs, I betcha it will get someone's attention, fast!
The ordinary response:
- find the defendant in contempt
- send US marshals to carry out the court order
- alternatively, send them to jail the person who held the court in contempt
The next step is the DoJ sends the US Marshalls to arrest the President for failure to comply with a federal court order. Let’s hope they follow through.
Congress is not withholding the funds, so they are not committing a crime. That’s part of the reason for the accountability executive order, obscuring responsibility.
After that
- marshalls will tell Trump he is wanted in court.
- Trump gets to carry on as usual
- Court finds trump guilty of 29 federal crimes, treason and corruption
- Trump will carry out the rest of his term guilty of those crimes.
- Trump will carry out as many terms as he wants guilty of those crimes.
The next step is the DoJ sends the US Marshalls to arrest the President
The DoJ is owned by Trump, so I don't think they'll be doing that.
You’re probably right, but our failing system is still intact. Once a constitutional crisis occurs, our system will be definitively proven to be a failure, and will require revision or replacement.
Is it intact?
Technically, yes. The unconstitutional actions taken by the executive branch have been challenged by the judiciary branch. If the executive branch does not comply, the next step is pressing charges. Failure to do so would be a constitutional crisis.
This is far from the first time that a president overstepped their authority. Trump was checked in his last term over the Muslim ban, for example. Even Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus without authority.
This would be the first time in US history that the president is not held accountable for failing to comply with a federal court order.
If the executive branch does not comply, the next step is pressing charges. Failure to do so would be a constitutional crisis.
They already have refused to abide by the orders... And then all we got was "Well, we'll check back later, and see if you complied yet".
He didn’t openly reject the order. He is appealing.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293132/trump-vance-constitutional-crisis-court-rulings
So, USAID dollars are moving now? Last I checked, no, and the lawyer said "I don't have any answers to your questions"....
Again, I didn’t say anything is working. I said our constitutional government is still intact. Read the link above, or do your own research on constitutional crisis and what it entails. It not simply a failure to follow protocol. It would require us to redefine the foundation of our democracy.
The DoJ is an executive agency, under the President, currently run by Pam Bondi and Emil Bove. Anyone in that organization who moves against the President is getting fired, whether or not that is legal.
Importantly, as of a few days ago any agency in the executive branch has to defer to the president and attorney general for interpretation of the laws, so if the president says the court order is illegal then the DoJ doesn't have to do anything.
And just like that, Trump fires the US Marshalls.
This is the interesting bit - he might try that. As far as I know, something changed in 1969 about the structure of the federal marshals, and the courts no longer hire their own marshals. A comment from an American well versed in law would help clear things up.
Interesting. I suppose it being an executive order does keep it to the executive branch. It's late over here and the brain hurts.
Too bad there isn't a law that requires the legislative brance to exercise powers of checks and balances. Maybe that's something to note for America 2.0.
The federal courts took the first step, ruling the action unconstitutional. We’ll see if the DoJ dispatches the US Marshalls with a warrant for failure to comply. If not, they will be complicit.
The courts can directly order the Marshalls to enforce their rulings. But yes,the Marshalls do roll up under the DOJ. So what happens when the courts give the order is anyone's guess.
Failure would result in a constitutional crisis.
Another one? Toss it on the pile.
There hasn’t been one yet. It’s defined as a situation in which a major political dispute cannot be clearly resolved on the basis of the particular government’s constitution or established practice. All steps must be taken until our system has been proven to fail.
You mean like when a person who organized an insurrection, and was found not eligible for office, still takes office?
I’m not saying he’s innocent, but he wasn’t convicted of having anything to do with it. That’s not a constitutional crisis, it’s a failure of our court system.
He literally is a convicted felon, who escaped jail only because he was running for POTUS.
That’s not a constitutional crisis, it’s a failure of our court system.
Those are one and the same.
He literally is a convicted felon
But not convicted of treason, which is the important part as far as eligibility for President
That’s not a constitutional crisis, it’s a failure of our court system.
Those are one and the same
They literally are not
What are they gonna do? Prosecute him? Impeach him? Hold him in contempt?
Dudes been stealing from everyone for his whole life and doesn't give a fuck what a judge thinks.
load more comments
(4 replies)
Traditions don't work with bullies. Trump is exposing every weakness in the US institutions.
view more: next ›