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Summary

A Canadian parliamentary petition to revoke Elon Musk’s citizenship has gathered over 150,000 signatures.

Launched by author Qualia Reed and sponsored by MP Charlie Angus, the petition accuses Musk of undermining Canada’s sovereignty due to his ties to Trump, who has repeatedly suggested annexing Canada.

Musk is a Canadian citizen through his mother. The petition will be presented to the House of Commons, which resumes on March 24.

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[–] [email protected] 273 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In like the 1940s Elon Musk's grandfather was a chiropractor in Regina, Saskatchewan and was arrested by the RCMP for being a central figure in an organization that was trying to overthrow the government and install a technocracy. I'm not kidding.

After that is when he fucked off to South Africa to partake in the Apartheid.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 week ago (18 children)

I realy want to belive this to be true, but I have to ask for a source on this one.

[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago

Thanks. And wow... Just... Wow.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There’s a two parter behind the bastards that also goes into this

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Voyajer 59 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I forgot he had Canadian citizenship, I wonder if any Republicans have enough of a spine to pressure him into relinquishing it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Republicans don't like Canada. All the speaking French and free healthcare and such.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Canadians don't like speaking French either haha

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

But we like French speakers because we know they aren’t American

[–] leauxhigh 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not free, taxes are what pay for healthcare.

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[–] bitchkat 16 points 1 week ago

I've been saying that since Elon came out as a lover of orange mushrooms, that Trump will somehow sell him birthright citizenship. But the theory thst the whole annex Canada shit solves that issue is intriguing.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

While I don't think it's possible to revoke his citizenship it might be possible to try him for treason against 'his' country.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There is precedent to revoke his citizenship.

In the 1980s, there was another extremist who used his international media platform to spew hate and disinformation. His name was Ernst Zundel. He continually laughed at Canada's laws against hate speech. He was ultimately jailed and then deported from our country.

(FYI Charlie Angus is a Member of Parliament in Canada.)

https://charlieangus.substack.com/p/musk-doesnt-deserve-canadian-citizenship

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(FYI Charlie Angus is a Minister of Parliament in Canada.)

Member of Parliament. He’s a part of the NDP opposition party. Ministers are heads of ministries, which are like departments, and ministers have traditionally been from the governing party.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

I would be surprised if this sort of thing was possible and I'm pretty sure it's not and im pretty sure it's a good thing that it's not

[–] Olap 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sadly, it is. Britain did it a few years ago to some kid that joined IS. She held rights to a passport to a country that she had never been even visited and that was enough for the Home Office to yank her British one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum

A pretty tragic tale imo

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

She didn't have the passport at that time, while musk has probably a bunch of them stashed away. What the British did was directly going against the UDHR, but musk can suck it.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Charlie Angus wrote about why he's helping to push this through, giving valid legal reasons why it should be done. Seeing as he's a current MP in Canada's parliament I'll believe him before I believe you.

https://charlieangus.substack.com/p/musk-doesnt-deserve-canadian-citizenship

[–] Aqarius 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

...Especially since the alternative could be just charging him with treason or something.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would be surprised if this sort of thing was possible and I’m pretty sure it’s not and im pretty sure it’s a good thing that it’s not

It isn't in the US, but the US is not all countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroyim_v._Rusk

Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967), was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States, which ruled that citizens of the United States may not be deprived of their citizenship involuntarily.[1][2][3] The U.S. government had attempted to revoke the citizenship of Beys Afroyim, a man born in Poland, because he had cast a vote in an Israeli election after becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen. The Supreme Court decided that Afroyim's right to retain his citizenship was guaranteed by the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. In so doing, the Court struck down a federal law mandating loss of U.S. citizenship for voting in a foreign election—thereby overruling one of its own precedents, Perez v. Brownell (1958), in which it had upheld loss of citizenship under similar circumstances less than a decade earlier.

EDIT: I haven't previously read up on citizenship law for Canada, so I don't know if this is missing relevant Canadian citizenship law, but a quick search suggests that Canadian law doesn't permit for executive removal of citizenship either:

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-29/page-3.html

Loss of Citizenship

Marginal note:No loss except as provided

7 A person who is a citizen shall not cease to be a citizen except in accordance with this Part or regulations made under paragraph 27(1)(j.1).

None of that section nor paragraph 27 looks like it provides for involuntary removal of Canadian citizenship.

That being said, there is a question of whether this is ordinary federal law or constitutional law. I don't know how one determines that.

In the US, Afroyim v. Rusk found that the US Constitution disallowed removal of citizenship. There is a high bar to modify the US Constitution -- a majority of both legislatures in a three-quarters supermajority of state legislatures need to approve of a constitutional amendment. This is considerably higher than the bar to pass ordinary federal law, which is just a simple majority in the House, Senate, and the President, or a two-thirds supermajority in both the House and Senate.

Canada's constitutional situation is complicated. Canada started out following the UK model, where Parliament can change any law it wants to as easily as any other -- there is no "higher law" like a constitution. At the time that Canada got split off from the UK at a constitutional level, some of Canadian law was decided to be part of the constitution and some not...but it was never defined exactly what law was and what wasn't, so I understand that courts have been working that out ever since. The constitution isn't simply a separate document, as in the US.

Also, different parts of Canada's constitution have different bars for amendment.

So I don't know for sure how strong this constraint is; it might be that the Canadian legislature could remove this bar as readily as they would a typical law.

EDIT2: Someone else pointed out the Shamima Begum case below, where the British executive removed someone's citizenship. I followed that and commented on it when it happened, and it is definitely possible for the executive to strip a citizen's citizenship in the UK; the law explicitly provides for it.

I was fairly concerned about this at the time it was in the news, because most other legal rights depend on citizenship. If you can remove someone's citizenship, you can remove most of their other legal rights and protections.

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[–] SinningStromgald 37 points 1 week ago

Will Canada adopt me so I can sign the petition as well?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Musk is a Canadian citizen through his mother

It’s the proof that Canada is hiding Nazis, it must be invaded!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Please don't give us any ideas

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In an ironic twist of 2025 that nobody saw coming, all of Putin's "the bad guys are nazis!" rhetoric is no longer propaganda

[–] himmyguap 31 points 1 week ago

Do it Canada! Do not hesitate.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~At just over 179k signatures now.~~

~~Now at over 183k.~~

~~187k+~~

~~190k+ (seems to be speeding up)~~

~~Just over 200k now!~~

Almost 208k. About 5000 per hr signing.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

If I were the Queen of America, I would have Elon tried for treason, I'd also have ICE remove everyone from their detention centers but not close it completely, they'd now have the job of Violating the fuck out of Elon's 8th Amendment rights.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How often do petitions actually affect change? I feel like I see petitions being mentioned a lot, but rarely do I see change as a reult. It feels like they are just another form of "thoughts and prayers". You feel like you're contributing something, but a few days go by and the collective amnesia sets in.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If anything its just another data mine for the political beliefs of potential dissidents. And before you say anything, yes, I am this much fun at parties as well

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

How often do petitions actually affect change?

Never. The government lists 3,319 total petitions and the most popular one has 387,487 signatures which is less than 1% of the population. The petition was to call an early election. I would hope the government doesn't dissolve itself every time less than 1% of people upvote a post.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Add mine to the total. Stop buying Teslas Don't use his internet service that pollutes the night sky Just a big thumbs down to this pseudo nazi.

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[–] Hawanja 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can Americans sign this petition also?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Vox populi vox Dei

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more than 200,000 now. Good, we don't claim him!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

I am hoping that he is marked as treasonous. The sooner that members of Yarvin's Cabal end up on wanted posters throughout the world, the better.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

You know it's serious because they didn't even say "sorry."

[–] hark 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this like a reality TV show where we can simply vote people off the ~~island~~ country?

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