Hawanja

Let me spell it out for you: I voted. I vote. I will vote. No, I didn’t say I did, you just assumed I didn’t and went ape shit about it. Despite the added context in the rest of my post, and despite me asking you to consider that you might be missing something.

See, if you would've just said this all in the beginning we could've avoided all this. Because it sounded to me - and to any other rational person reading your post - that you were making excuses for not voting. That's why I bolded the text "No, I didn't say I did." You did not say you voted, so how am I supposed to know you did? Am I supposed to read your mind?

Still, it seems a bit like you're still not understanding how important it actually is, so I refuse to apologize. I stand by every word, and I use this as my rationale:

I also don’t tell others to vote or not vote. That’s completely up to them and it is not a goddamn reflection of their character.

When one of the candidates is a fascist who's going to hurt people and destroy democracy, then not voting against them kinda is a reflection on your character. It shows you don't care enough about other people.

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. You are a goddamn shit stain on society.

I like how I'm the fascist, when I'm the one actually doing something to try and stop fascists and not the one making excuses for those who didn't

And you still didn’t read my original response.

I read it. I just don't buy your bullshit excuse for not voting. That's dumb. That's like the kind of thing I would've said when I was an edgy thirteen year old.

Fuck you, you absolute piece of shit.

Hey, you're the one who won't get up off his lazy ass to go vote, not me. See what you're not getting is that voting is not about you "Supporting a corrupt system." It's about you protecting the people you love. You have told me that you don't give a shit enough to bother voting, so I must therefore come to the conclusion that there's nothing and nobody you love.

It tells me you don't care about justice, or the rule of law, or the economics of the downtrodden, or about giving people healthcare, or preserving the planet so they don't live in a polluted shithole. These are all things that have a direct effect on your life, and the life of your wife, daughter, and grandchild -and by your inaction you're complicit in allowing fascists to take power and create the policies governing these things. Like I said, who's side are you on? Apparently you're not even on your own family's side.

You are an incurious, illiterate, spiteful, petty person who shouldn’t be engaging with others.

Hey I'm not sorry you got offended. Sounds like this is the first time anyone's ever bother to tell you the truth about yourself.
The great thing about this country is that nobody forces you to do anything. Feel free to sit everything out if that satisfies whatever stupid corrupt moral requirements you've created for yourself. Just don't try to pretend that you actually care about your country, your family, or anyone else if you can't even bother to show up every four years to do the absolute minimum required to keep this country free.

I struggle to see why it's such a hard thing for people to do the absolute minimum required to prevent fascists from taking power. Why is it like pulling teeth to get leftists to be civically engaged?

Given this response, I’m guessing you read less than a paragraph in to my original response and decided you needed to wield your superior intellect and values and produce a “gotcha” response while not actually understanding what you were reading.

Couldn't think of a witty comeback, huh?

I own a relatively large house and multiple cars. I have a wife and a dog and a daughter and a granddaughter.

You obviously don't seem to care about the kind of country they grow up in, since you're too lazy to do the absolute minimum required to prevent them from growing up in a fascist hellhole.

You so badly want to pounce you have to build a straw man to dislike instead of trying to understand a perspective different from your own. You are a petty person.

All I'm saying is that fascism is here, which side are you on? Because if you're just going to sit this one out, then you're on the side of the fascists.

Just so I understand, you'd rather wait around until the complete collapse of society rather than take five minutes to go vote, is that right? Because what, a democrat might accidently get elected and give you healthcare, but he might get some money from a corporation or something to do it so fuck that, right?
You understand that if things ever got bad enough for the system to collapse it would not be a communist paradise that arises from the ashes, right?
I seriously don't understand you people. This is like chopping your whole hand off because your fingernails need trimming.

Edit: also, it has already collapsed. That should have been evident in the 2016 primaries.

You don't actually own anything of value, like a house or a car, I take it.

None of this changes the fact that by not voting against the fascists, you're doing nothing to prevent them from taking control of the government.

when the Bourgeois electoral system inevitably collapses.

What you guys don't get is that when the electoral system eventually collapses it will be far too late, and any chance of your revolution ever happening will be long gone.

By doing so they're allowing fascists to take over. Isn't it in your best interest, as a leftist, to prevent the fascist take over of your country?
And before you say "The country is already run by fascists," over here our immigration dept. is now starting to detain Native Americans. The president is deporting school children. Even other American citizens who aren't white are being detained. That simply was not happening under the previous president.

Excuse me, I wasn't aware that class distinctions were enforced on lemmy.

Except in real life you actually said this stupid shit:

Like it’s so fucking hard to imagine that “Super Humans” which exactly translates to German as “Ubermench” could have nazi ideology baked in to the very foundation.

This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read in my entire life and shows you know absolutely nothing about the subject. The concept of a "superhero" predates National Socialism, concept of a Nazi superman, and even the creation of fascism as an ideology itself, and in fact has roots in myths and folklore.

But you wouldn't know that because you're too busy being sniffing your own farts. Here's some advice, try reading a comic book before you talk about them, maybe then you won't look so stupid.

You really don't know what the hell you're talking about here.