The fellow travelers will continue to deny it, while the self-identified fascists will become progressively more open with it. Vance and Musk and the rest of the reactionary neo-fascists don't need to convince the average Republican they aren't fascists, the average Republican has spent a decade or more pretending that the Republican Party hasn't happily made itself a home for fascism in public life.
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The question I keep asking my conservative family is, "When do we start to be concerned, at what point do we call them Nazis?"
It's scary to think this kind of conversation is very similar to ones people had in 1930s Germany. Some people realised it was all going downhill quite early, some never admitted it was happening at all.
This tactic aims specifically at having the left discuss it. This gives Nazis a chance to reframe the discussion and promote their agenda. Source: https://www.salon.com/2025/01/22/elon-musks-salute-falls-flat-why-far-right-trolling-isnt-working-this-time/
What we should be doing instead of discussing this? Nazis will feel empowered to take the streets, as it happened in Ohio and Cincinnati. Just for the sake of historical accuracy, I suggest you study the history of the 1970's anti-nazi practices in East London.
They solved their Nazi problems for years to come. Just go out and have some self-care. Touch grass. /s
Are you sure he can lift his arms that high?
Doesn't have to, he'll do the classic Hitler receiving salute.
They don't have to pretend, the media is doing it for them.
He probably just saw some bird and he pointed at it surprised, or maybe it was a sudden rise in blood flow in his right arm leading to it stiffening. He could also have meant something entirely different with his strange gesture. While we can agree it was very odd, you can't just accuse ~~nazis~~ right-wing politicians of doing the Hitler salute without strong evidence!
or maybe it was a sudden rise in blood flow in his right arm leading to it stiffening.
Ugh, I hate random arm boners.
Who's the guy at the top? The name in the card says "courtesy Matt Schlapp, chairman CPAC", but it doesn't seem to be the same guy.
Eduardo Verástegui.
He's a Mexican actor? lol
Yeah, the MAGA lot love him.