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[–] tibi 4 points 22 hours ago

That won't work, because you see... When you are born rich, your parents know people who can make any crime go away. When you are not born rich, you don't get that privilege and you will get made an example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The issue is that coffee is clearly too cheap and should be more expensive when scaled to your total price of housing.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why not simply try your best to be born into a rich family?

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago

That was my first mistake that I still haven't financially recovered from.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm in my 40s now. Is it too late to do this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you feel about reincarnation ?

[–] Theonetheycall1845 1 points 1 day ago

Not too good actually.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You can look into adoption. I'm sure there are plenty of billionaires who are looking to adopt a 40 year old boy (or a girl)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I don't know how common this was elsewhere, but in feudal Japan it was common for powerful families without a son to adopt an adult son who could carry on their family name and titles.

Unfortunately, these days the billionaires seem to be fond of pumping out dozens of children with different women, so they're not likely to need a son to carry on the family name.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I can't confirm this. They all seem to like little children.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly, you need to do four things in order to become rich:

  • Do NOT pay taxes; taxes are only for poor people; be proactive.
  • Use your tax money to ~~bribe~~ lobby politicians into help you become richer.
  • Abuse your employees and your providers; squeeze them like you were a baddie from Dune.
  • Be a pillar of the community, which means paying a PR agency to boost your image.

Or at least that's what I learned from the rich.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not how you become rich-er. To become rich in the first place, you need to try real hard to be born rich, or be one of the four people per generation that get stupid lucky.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

The important part is once you're rich, claim it was due hard work and perseverance only.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And Cuban is fond of saying that anyone building wealth from nothing who tells you luck wasn’t involved is lying.

[–] CluckN 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are 13 million Cubans which one said this?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

The Cuban duhhh, we all know that Cuban.

Lol kidding aside, if you didn't know him Mark Cuban is a real person, he's a billionaire or at least super super rich.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

You're way of base here.
It's a talking cigar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cuban is an idiot as well to be fair. Even if he was being based here.

Pretty sure that the 3 comma club dude in Silicon Valley is based on Cuban.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Making coffee at home does save you quite a lot if you drink even a decent amount. Won't make you a millionaire though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

This is ridiculously insufficient to become rich!

I make my own coffee at home, AND I bake my bread myself!

Beware the next billionaiiiiiire!!!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 23 points 1 day ago

Making coffee at home while I collect a paycheck from one of seven different no-show jobs.

[–] Diplomjodler3 25 points 1 day ago

Getting a little interest free loan of a few million from your family also helps.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Rather than agreeing to lower pay and poor working conditions, why not demand better by using your father's influence as the head of a top fortune company to simply buy out your workplace and skim the payroll of your fellow workers into your own account.

[–] NocturnalMorning 17 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I never thought of doing that. Now i know what I've been doing wrong. Your coworkers hate this one simple trick to becoming a millionaire.

[–] Pacattack57 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There’s a video I like that talks about how pointless it is to cut minor expenses at the cost of your mental health. If you instead decide to invest an extra 1% a year once a year you will make hundreds of thousands over your life versus saving $2000 a year.

[–] disguy_ovahea 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s certainly possible to earn yourself into being a millionaire without fraud. You need more than a million dollars just to retire in the US.

Billionaires are another story entirely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s certainly possible to become a millionaire without committing any fraud - you just have to start as a billionaire first.

[–] partial_accumen 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If you are given/get/earn $51,000 and you invest that at a 7% return when you are 21 and never save a single extra penny, at age 65 you will have $1,001,051.44.

I'm not suggesting everyone can come up with $51k at 21. This is just illustrating that the path to being a millionaire is can be more about how early you start saving rather that how much. If you start saving much later, you have to save much MUCH more to reach $1m.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More realistic example for most:

At age 18 start investing 200 per month at 8% return. At age 63 you have over million dollars. If your parents invested the 200/month for you for the first 18 years you were alive, you'll be a millionaire at age 45.

[–] Makeitstop 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always thought that we should offer some kind of a credit to parents to invest in a retirement account for their kids. Nothing huge, but something that will get six decades of compound interest. Not only would that help all future generations to retire in an economically sustainable way, but it should also be a slow and steady boost to the economy.

Unfortunately, that would be unlikely to happen in the best of times. The people who would benefit most won't be voters for years, and won't actually reap the benefits until the politicians passing the law are all long dead. Given the dystopian nightmare timeline we're in now, I'd say the odds of a program like that being created are slightly lower than the odds of us trying to fund social security by invading Ireland to find their leprechaun gold.

[–] partial_accumen 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’ve always thought that we should offer some kind of a credit to parents to invest in a retirement account for their kids.

Parents could do savings, but in the USA a "retirement account" is usally defined by an IRA or 401k. For an IRA, there's actually no age restriction, but the person must have earned income. I suppose this could even be a 12 year old babysitting or lawn mowing, but the 12 year old would have to file a tax return (but they wouldn't be charged any tax for their low income).

Nothing huge, but something that will get six decades of compound interest. Not only would that help all future generations to retire in an economically sustainable way, but it should also be a slow and steady boost to the economy.

Starting in 2024, you could rollover unused funds in 529 accounts (college savings accounts) into IRAs (retirement accounts) without any penalty. So I suppose this would check the box with what you're asking for. Note: limit on this is up to $35k.

Unfortunately, that would be unlikely to happen in the best of times. The people who would benefit most won’t be voters for years, and won’t actually reap the benefits until the politicians passing the law are all long dead. Given the dystopian nightmare timeline we’re in now, I’d say the odds of a program like that being created are slightly lower than the odds of us trying to fund social security by invading Ireland to find their leprechaun gold.

Well beside the 529 rollover to IRA, there was a great problem called myRA which was a baby Roth IRA with no fees, no minimum deposit to open it, a guaranteed return (backed by the US Gov), and contributions could be as little as $5.

"The myRA was a "new type of saving bond that we can set up without legislation"[1] guaranteed to have a decent return, by holding an "add on" Treasury security in a Roth IRA, with contributions after taxes and lifetime growth to be tax free. The maximum annual contribution is $5,500, including any Roth and Traditional IRA contributions.[17] When a myRA account reaches either $15,000 in value or 30 years of age (whichever comes first), it will roll into a private-sector retirement account. The initial investment can be as low as $25, and one can make periodic investments for as little as $5 every time one gets paid.[18] "

source

It was closed down in 2018 because so few Americans used it. source

[–] AA5B 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was closed down in 2018 because so few Americans used it

I was getting excited up until this point. It’s too late for my kids now but I wish we knew about this

Edit: oh, it was only there for a few years, and we were having a medical crisis at the time. We wouldn’t have been paying attention

[–] Makeitstop 1 points 1 day ago

The difference between my proposed policy and the ones you are discussing is that I would suggest that there should be some amount of funding for it coming from the government. I wouldn't object to parents being able to invest some additional money into the account, but I don't think it solves the problem if parents are the only ones contributing. Kids already put a strain on finances, and most people aren't going to invest money they need today in an account that won't be touched for more than half a century. Lower income families in particular would get the most benefit from such a program and would be the least likely to use it unless it was funded by the government.

I wouldn't even want to make this an optional program, I'd say the account should be created automatically and parents can gain access in order add money of their own or possibly to adjust the investments among a defined set of options. When a kid comes of age they would be able to claim the account, and they should be able to contribute to it with a withholding from their paycheck.

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[–] Strider 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't have enough up votes for this.

[–] edgemaster72 7 points 1 day ago

Maybe if you skipped the avocado toast every now and then you could afford to pull some upvotes from your bootstraps or something

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

As someone who doesn't make coffee at home, I guess it's the combination of both

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