He has yet to stop the genocide for that to hold a colander' worth of water.
this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2025
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Hey, look, it's [90% of the people I argued with on Lemmy before election day]!
And it's now 90% quieter. Hmmm.
If a protest could work under trump why wouldn't it work under Harris?
Assuming he is sincere, then I'd assume that he would say that it's not "their" protests at that point but the participation of others.
Under Harris, they stay isolated without energized allies as most people are relieved with the status quo. They hope that Trump pushes things so far to perhaps even cancel elections and trigger a violent uprising that opens the door for them to ultimately win and that is their opportunity to finally replace the status quo. A very dangerous game where a more likely outcome is a far right authoritarian state with lots of suffering and lives at stake, but that's a risk they are glad for everyone to take.
You see this in their rhetoric, that it's not their fault for failing to support a viable alternative to Trump, it's everyone else's fault for failing to agree with them, and maybe now everyone will learn their lesson and agree with them.
I've had conversations with them and they hold that democracy is the wrong way. Essentially they think the citizenry are too stupid and/or lazy to decide how things should be governed. This is pretty much the horseshoe effect, both the far right and far left want to replace the democratic system with something else. If someone doesn't 100% agree with them, they must be wrong and their perspective must be ignored, and democracy means actually trying to work with such people. So they prefer to take their chances with prodding a violent conflict since they've figured they can never win peacefully. If they can't have the presidency, then who cares. No patience for capturing local and legislative offices.
The far right was more effective strategically, playing the game until they could unleash. They played the game with the republican party according to the rules, and then won.
Essentially they think the citizenry are too stupid and/or lazy to decide how things should be governed.
Well... Yes. This is more or less true. But that's an argument to increase education and engagement, not to discard the whole system.
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Because trump won't take over Gaza and turn it into a casino strip.......hang on a minute.......
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I am absolutely disgusted by this. Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.
You may have different opinions from me about the third party voters and the culpability they carry, but I hope we all can agree that Jason Call and company here are blatantly evil and have blood on their hands.
Hoping this can be a moment of reactionary leftist unity. Fuck every leader who actively worked towards MAGA. I’m doing my best to organize and do damage control, but not because some dumbass Jill Stein employee told me to. You should too.
honestly, I have this nagging feeling that stein only runs to deliberately split the democratic vote. she knows exactly trumps position on Gaza, facism and capitalism. and she looks the other way either for personal gain, or because she supports trumps positions
i don’t thing it has to be a nagging feeling even :/ i think this tweet basically proves it
i mean he basically says “yeah we did this so trump would win”
like yeah it’s with veiled language but only about as veiled as musk’s “my heart goes out to you”
If you have this feeling then you should be working to replace First-past-the-post voting in your state so splitting the vote isn't a possibility.
Yes, BUT that's not where we are yet. And until that's where we are, and until the electoral college is also some kind of ranked-choice, it's profoundly immoral to influence people to vote in a way that will cause more harm and suffering.
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I don't know anything about the Green party except that they exist and always run for president. Are they actually big enough to have made a difference in the election? I've always seen them as a meme nobody takes seriously.
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"Were going to not elect genocide by electing ultra-genocide!"
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Sounds like the voting system needs an overhaul if those are your two options don't ya think?
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"ps, don't look at our policy concerning Ukraine."
Russian stooge says what?
I'd take that as a confession to being complicit whenever we get to the US equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.
Well, Nuremberg was the heart of Nazi rule, so I guess the US version will be at Mar-a-Lago.
Remember, when the social democratic Part (SPD) and communist Party (KPD) of late Weimar republic Germany enabled the fascist government of Hitlers NSDAP in 1933. All because they were too focused on fighting each other, thinking that after Hitler, who is sure to fail, they will get greater voter turnout in their respective favor? Yeah, this here has the same vibes.
Spoiler: they did not get their turn or voter turnout because there was no longer a German democratic state (just to make sure us-americans not well-versed in international history understand)
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What about the moral stain of ethnic cleansing?
Yeah, didn't you hear the news, Gaza is saved!
Oh wait...
I've been told by more than one person on Lemmy that not only is it totally not the same thing as genocide, but that genocide is much worse.