The REMNANTS of the US would be fucked without the regular contributions of CA and tech folks based in WA. Most (or is it all?) red states are net takers (pull more from government than they contribute back) while publicly whining about welfare. Fuck around and find out....
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As a Californian I'll say that if they want to take our rights and go home, we'll take our money and go home.
Why does the east coast always get left out?
Maine should be part of New Brunswick but we hate Americans the people so that’s why these suggestions are just jokes
Do you really want to merge with Quebec?
Because the east coast will form Mega-City One.
It’s gonna be called the DMV because I’m pretty sure that’s the coolest metro area name in the north east.
It will become DMV City when New York City becomes connected
Ok, but we made a promise in the past to take Alaska and Hawaii with us too.
It's super convenient because Hawaii and Alaska are in boxes just off the west coast on maps.
Never forget
I personally support all of Canada amd the US breaking into smaller countries but with an EU style freedom of movement and trade deal.
I like this because it’s closer to “articles of confederation” version of the proto United States which imo is closer to anarchism although still far from it.
So, this was pushed for a while and was later discovered to be Chinese propaganda. But it holds water is the thing.
Breaking into smaller counties isn't the solution because you lose economies of scale and inefficient trade. Which was why China pushed it, to leave themselves and the EU as the largest single economies in the world.
The real solution is to regionalize block of states and instead of having one head of state as President, a council of state like Switzerland with a rotating chair that functions as the ceremonial head of state.
But that would take a new constitution...
But that would take a new constitution… Yeah, its a good that the thing that is only a couple centries old has been updated to match modern times and all.
Ironic when you consider that the people who would cry foul and act all offended the most if you ever were to suggest thinking about changing the entire constitution, have no issue with blatantly ignoring it entirely when it suits them.
Almost like the people who follow and believe in it the most are the only ones about to get mega dicked.
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Just FYI Canadians, don’t get fooled when people say California is “leftist”. Check out recent referendum results, they voted against abolishing slavery (for prisoners) and in favour of the death penalty for example. They are only “leftist” in relation to the neofacist US’s overton window.
Do you think Canada is on average that much more leftist than California? Canada has plenty of Trump supporters and they aren't even US citizens.
Yes, as a Californian leftist, our government has always been more interested in money than people, and it will continue to be a problem. NIMBYs will be the death of us.
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Never going to happen. The USA will not let CA leave.
So, I think this could happen. Trump and Musk are just trying to speedrun smashing the administrative state; it's difficult to overstate the enormity of the damage they're going to do to the federal government's ability to govern over the next two months. Laying off all these administrators and closing their offices is going to create a glut of administrators at the same time as it creates a demand for administrative capacity to make up for what the feds dropped. Plus, they're going to want to stop California, but how will they when they've gone and replaced every competent person in the DOJ/DOD/FBI/CIA with incompetent stooges?
California has an advanced enough administrative state to handle breaking off, jokes aside. California also has the economy. Here's the kicker: California has the geography. California would be a complete bitch to invade; for most of the coastline, the mountains (hills, as the locals call them, but they ARE mountains) just run right into the ocean, and the ocean is notoriously a bastard for much of that coastline; as for an overland route, there's basically, like, three big highways that cross the Sierra Nevadas to inland Cali. A couple of big bombs or cal fire bulldozers would make short work of them. Plus, California has a LOT of agriculture to support itself with. Basically, the one weak spot is water supply, and we could be doing a lot better than we are if we just tightened up on our industrial, livestock, and rich dumbass consumption.
California's economy is extremely dependent on being part of the USA. They barely cover the hap between money taken from the government and what they contribute and it is fairly easy to make the case they take more.
The government would not need to invade. The moment they make clear that CA farmers cannot access the Colorado river waters like they used to and that any foreign tech company is no longer able to access US DOD money you will see tech be willing to move and agriculture collapse in CA. After gutting any aide and scholarships for students attending CA schools and the USA will have crippled the top 3 industries in CA without firing a shot.
CA wouldn't be akin to France ir Italy if it left the USA it would be more like Mexico economically.
The moment they make clear that CA farmers cannot access the Colorado river waters like they used to
But..but...I've been told that there's a big faucet up here in Canada that we can turn on for y'all to make it all better.
/s. (god I can't believe I live in a world where I need an /s tag for this)
Bro, Mexico isn't really that badly off. They've got their problems, for sure, but who doesn't?
Second, California is sure to have its own defense industry, and I don't know if you'd see tech abandon their silicon valley HQs. It's going to be hard to walk away from that pool of skilled labor they've concentrated in that area.
True but many of the people who back this will mouth nonsense about how CA would be the 5th richest nation when that position entirely depends on being part of the USA. Once the agriculture businesses cease getting US subsidies and the tech sector flees California would not be so wealthy.
Tech will go where their money goes and those employees will follow.
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That would immediately launch it into the #2 spot of countries by GDP. I'm down for that 🤣
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Yes, fucking, PLEASE.
Sick of our tax dollars supporting these fucking deadbeat ass states like Arkansas,Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi.
Also Louisiana, Arkansas, and Mississippi all smell like a fucking asshole because of all the paper mills.
Yep. There’s a reason me and my wife left Mississippi a few years ago for Washington.
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