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[–] bitchkat 6 points 1 day ago

I took a 50% raise to work from home again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, work from the homeless shelter. /s

People should be paid more, not less. There's enough wealth hoarding to prove the money is there.

[–] okamiueru 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

These articles just stink corporate interests. "You'd have to pay 20% more than a competitor, if the difference is requiring not working from home." rings a lot different than "please master, don't make me go back, I'll work for 20% less and be happy, it's a win-win, right?"

Let's see how competitive the company is when you are off by at least 20% and the ones who work from home at the competing firms are more productive at it too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

These are total bullshit Corp articles. Another way to stifle pay. If your skillet is good for the job you should get paid that. The only benefit to working in the office is to get needlessly bagged at by walkby's. What's the point of walking to your home office, getting on a computer working, vs wasting unnecessary time in traffic creating pollution and walking to the office to get on a computer and work? It's stupid.

[–] b3an 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Really? I felt I should be paid more since I’m not getting electricity, coffees, internet, heat, subsidized by my job for the increased usage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True. Outside of brief hardware / furniture accommodations that were offered at the start of the pan, my previous company made out like bandits. They tried a six week "experiment" of having us come to the office twice a week in 2021. At the end, they looked at the numbers, made wfh the primary mode, and moved to a smaller office.

For context, the CEO / owner had been floating the possibility of taking over the office space across from us, doubling our footprint, in early 2020.

[–] b3an 1 points 1 day ago

They’ve saved a lot of money on floor space. A LOT of money.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depends where you are. Imagine losing 2 hours a day in traffic + buying lunches cause never room in fridge. I knew multiple coworkers that got hotels to stay in and took train back home for weekends because it was cheaper than living close to work or didn't want to uproot family.
Savings in those cases well outweighs 20%.

[–] b3an 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But the inconvenience of all that shit sounds horrible and unnecessary and expensive too. Fuck commuting in traffic spewing CO2 to line some asshole’s pocket who doesn’t want me to have a normal standard of living.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's why the 20% cut could be worth it. Now you can get more sleep in.

[–] b3an 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, that’s the stupidest shit. Why should you take a cut in pay?? What warped mind fuck world are you living where you think you have to give up a fifth of your wages for this right??

[–] Sconrad122 6 points 2 days ago

Sure, sure, so just rephrase the statement. Many workers believe working in the office justifies 25% additional compensation (80 to 100% of what they are paid today). That doesn't mean workers shouldn't be paid more, it's just capturing the delta in compensation required to justify in person work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I'm paying a fifth of my wage commuting and eating lunches alone. Taking the cut is a net positive. Like the other commenters said it's totally bs that it has to be considered at all. No pay cut since is Needed since productivity doesn't go down.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago

Nah. This is just trying to normalize paying workers less

[–] njm1314 9 points 2 days ago
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 44 points 2 days ago

Perhaps we should be able to work from home where the work itself permits and also get paid the same amount. Fuck off with the push polling.

[–] teamevil 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bullshit unless the company is making 20% less off my work suddenly...it's a win win for business don't let them pay less rent and you less salary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I somehow believe they get a tax cut from city or something that has to be worth more than emptying the building for 3 days.

[–] bitchkat 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My previous employer built a 2nd building in the same metro area. They got grants and stuff but they had stipulations that required a minimum number of employees to work in that office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah they could just say that and we would be less annoyed. Instead of the whole let's ruin everyone's day additude

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some can perhaps afford to give up 20% of their salary. Good for them. Many of us don't have that wiggle room.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For me giving up the commute would basically pay my 20% that I forgo. My gas bill is like $400 a month and 90% of that is for my work commute.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's how I interpret it: 20% covers the cost of commuting. Factor in the time of commuting and getting ready, and 20% doesn't sound that crazy.

[–] Dorkyd68 3 points 1 day ago

Pfft, speak for yourself. What utter bs this article. Some real "journalism " going on here

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Source is CNBC lol

why is this corpo shit paper permitted in pro worker sub?

[–] spankmonkey 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As part of our push to retain work from home after covid I pointed out that my cost savings per year between time (at overtime rates), food, and transportation was $10,000 dollars and all they needed to provide was an extra power block and mouse+keyboard. They had already given me an unintentional raise, and I wanted to keep some of it.

Ended up hybrid which works out great since there are some people that need to communicate in person, but two days a week meets that need and the other three days I can be productive on other stuff and with people who can communicate remotely.

People shouldn't take a pay cut to work remote, they should treat it as a benefit that doesn't need to be part of their paycheck.

[–] roofuskit 4 points 2 days ago

It's part of your total compensation. Or so goes the buzzword.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

You get what you pay for. You want to 20% discount someone that works just as hard as the in office bro? Then don’t be surprised when you end up hiring the kind of workers that will allow themselves to be paid at 20% discount.