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Australia has enacted strict anti-hate crime laws, mandating jail sentences for public Nazi salutes and other hate-related offenses.

Punishments range from 12 months for lesser crimes to six years for terrorism-related hate offenses.

The legislation follows a rise in antisemitic attacks, including synagogue vandalism and a foiled bombing plot targeting Jewish Australians.

The law builds on state-level bans, with prior convictions for individuals performing Nazi salutes in public spaces, including at sporting events and courthouses.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

targeting Jewish Australians.

There it is. I'll bet criticizing Isreal is considered anti-semetic too. Meanwhile Aboriginals still don't have rights.

[–] Demdaru 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

See, I am overall against any and all limits of free speech but...

Yeah. Context matters. And in current world context, good job Australia, hope outher countries take notes.

[–] Woht24 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Literal hate crimes, I'm all for. A gesture with your arm gets you 12 months? That's too much, regardless of its origin or meaning.

I'll say, likely wasting my digital breath, I do not support any sort of Nazi bullshit or affiliates. But truly, outlawing gestures is a next level, knee jerk reaction to a problem they don't know what else to do to solve.

[–] WhatYouNeed 4 points 1 hour ago

It's a nazi fucken salute mate. What part of it isn't a hate crime?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Sending people to jail is a great way to make sure they don't spend time embroiled in Nazi ideology on every level. Probably the best way to make sure someone never comes in contact with a single particle of Nazism, is to send them to prison.

(Can you tell I'm american?)

[–] Dasus 28 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Yeah, but most of the people I imagine pulling a Nazi salute "as a joke like Elon (were so hilarious haha look at those [insertracialslur])" might be deterred from pulling their shitty "joke" if it actually means prison time automatically. It doesn't matter if it's just like a week. Try explaining to an employer why you didn't attend the important meeting you had because you sat in jail for a week for a fascist "joke".

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[–] ArtVandelay 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I sat on a jury recently and a large part of the case had to do with prison culture. It's so incredibly sad how accurate this is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

My dad was a prison guard, I've thought about some of these dynamics a lot over the years.

[–] shplane 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly what else is there to do? These people aren’t exactly going to change their minds, and letting them display hate in the name of free speech is only going to help them mobilize and elect more trumps in the world.

[–] Blumpkinhead 3 points 9 hours ago

I don't know we do it, but I think addressing the root causes as to why people are drawn to hate groups or hateful beliefs would be better. Eliminating the symptom doesn't solve the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Well I say it elsewhere, but we need to really start to rethink carcerial justice as a solution to social problems. It doesn't help, it just compounds the contradictions that lead to problems like crime, fascism in the first place.

I understand we can't just snap our fingers to make it go away. But The first step is discussion.

[–] CEbbinghaus 151 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Fucking finally. Good shit Australia. Doing better than most. Watch Elmo throw a hissie fit. Pathetic

[–] [email protected] 70 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I hope he tests the waters there and Australia follows through.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 30 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Don't kid yourself. Australia is also an oligarchy where corporations get most of what they want passed within days/weeks, with little to no debate, while popular or inconsequential policies are given months or years of debate (so the murdoch/oligarch propaganda machine can distract the public and tell them how to think).

There is no chance in hell either major party would imprison an American dictators right hand man. They're both corporate whores at heart, with little/no virtue.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 20 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Agreed.

I'm so sick of this absolutist free speech bullshit that wants to make room for terrorist ideologies to hide.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

There is no free speech absolutism. Dare to criticize him or make fun of him and you are banned and ostracized. It's a Nazi enablement pure and simple.

[–] Dasus 5 points 11 hours ago

It's kinda weird to sort of start rolling back to where some type of conservatism is actually a good thing. I don't want to identify as a conservative, but I definitely want to conserve institutions of justice and whatnot and not have them corrupted by right-wing crypto cucks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Can Canada do this too?

[–] SinningStromgald 47 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump puts tariffs on Australia....

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And Musk to block Starlink from Australia.

[–] expatriado 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

gosh, how we let the weird kid gather so much power..

[–] jaybone 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He’s gonna get starlink to burn insects like with a magnifying glass. Maybe the Jewish space lasers were Nazi space lasers all along.

[–] OldChicoAle 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're projecting like always.

[–] Sterile_Technique 6 points 11 hours ago

In their defense, that's the only thing lasers know how to do.

[–] GRIMMnM 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Good. I'm glad Australia drew a hard line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

A hard line angled up at about 45 degrees.

[–] anon6789 8 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah. How about from 1948?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Now make it retroactive and with universal jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

I know you're joking, but we do not want retroactive laws

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Retroactive laws are a horrible idea

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

*Unless applied in benefit

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