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[–] galanthus 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Russians actually call russian salad "olivier", after the guy who made it, but it was invented in Russia by a man that was born there, so I am not sure you can say it is French.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] galanthus 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Olivier

I suppose he was of franco-belgian descent, but he was born in Russia, raised in Russia, died in Russia, and invented his salad in Russia as a chief of a russian restaurant.

Even the french agree: "Lucien Olivier est un chef russe d'origine franco-belge" - from Wikipaedia.

Also:

"Nationalité - russe"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

Technically the French call the puff pastries most countries seem to equate to typically French (the croissant f.i.) after Vienna. Those are called Vienoiseries

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What's with the Health Hazard?

[–] mercano 2 points 11 hours ago

Probably lutefisk, fish cured in lye.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"The Vast Atlantic Ocean" is 😙🤌

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"😙🤌" is overrated though...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Chef's kiss is overrated?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Cruel, heartless, totally deserved. Appropriate friendly banter.

[–] Diplomjodler3 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you mean? That's just reality, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Some say there are islands there that have food without flavour.

[–] Diplomjodler3 3 points 17 hours ago

Nah, that's just misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

Rotten cabbage rocks, especially the Korean varieties

[–] Dasus 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

"Ice cube salad"?

Our Finnish cuisine is so non-existent people can't even make jokes about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Uuuhh... the starvation bark bread? I think there was a reindeer meat pizza that one some award.

Whatever, our own one thing is a vaguely modified American dish, and comes from Quebec, so you're not alone.

[–] Dasus 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's not cuisine, that's a dish. It's a Finnish dish, but the cuisine is technically Italian.

We don't have a cuisine in the same way in the North as mainland Europe does. Like do you know what the national dish of Finland is? Karjalanpaisti, Karelian stew. Which when traditionally made, has the following ingredients ONLY; beef cubes, pork cubes, a mildly salted pot of water.

Heat for several hours.

That's it.

Like people joke about how bland British food is but it's literally on fire compared to our traditional dishes. Like a shepherd's pie made with a red wine and even bland-ish British spices would be absolutely gorgeous compared to Karelian stew.

I think the national dish really reflects the Finnish spirit well though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Mongolian "cuisine" is kind of the same. At some point you're far enough north meat is the only reliable ingredient. It's remarkable how well the Koreans and Russians have managed to make out, really.

I think the national dish really reflects the Finnish spirit well though.

In which way do you mean?

[–] Dasus 4 points 16 hours ago

Well Mongolia is quite a bit further South than even the furthest part of Finland. Finland being around 59° and Mongolia 52°. But it's warmer here, more likely. Because we get some of the warming effects of the Gulf.

Mongolia is mostly desert and we have the sea and forests. My point here being there's tons of plants and whatnot. I understanding having to eat just horse if there's literally nothing else around, but... spices would've been more common in that part of the world though, so I wonder if the meat got some spices?

We didn't really even have peppers lol. Could've just thrown in some thyme and carrots and onions and whatnot at the least.

I've also heard a thing in which sometimes in hot parts of the world like say India, some of the heavy spice mixes originated because the lower classes would often have near spoiled meat and you wanted the spices to make up for the poor quality.

Here in Finland storing meat wouldn't have been much of an issue because of the cold.

I think the national dish really reflects the Finnish spirit well though.

In which way do you mean?

Half pigs, half cows, mildly salty and without any passion (spice).

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Meh, "proper cuisine" is definitely accurate since it's our national pride, but most of the others don't really feel like french stereotypes. "Soggy pastry" for Denmark even sounds suspiciously american, I've never heard anyone say that about this country in France and I don't even know what it's referring to

[–] Valmond 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah as a Scandinavia living in france, all that part is totally off too.

The Meatball thing? Sounds amerikanish too, def not french.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The meatball thing came from Ikea 100%

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We stole them bad boys from Turkey iirc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh? Like the US and their statue of liberty? Or the Dutch and their tulips?

[–] Valmond 1 points 2 hours ago

The statue was given by the french, but the USA started by giving one to France IIRC (they paid for the first one in Paris if I got that correctly). It's obviously smaller, you can see it on one of the bridges in Paris.

Actually there are a whole bunch of them in Paris, that's a little rabbit hole if you're curious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I took a look at the website this is coming from, it seems to be mostly the blog author's interpretation of what the stereotypes are for each of their maps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Here it is for anyone curious: https://atlasofprejudice.com/

Their mostly tongue-in-cheek like this one.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

I think this belongs more in [email protected]

But I chuckled so thanks for sharing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

LOL, that's funny. As an italian, I regret not having tried real french cuisine yet.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

"inventors" is the best diss i've ever seen for modern swedish food

i asked a friend from italy what she thought about our pizza and she basically said "as long as i don't think of it as pizza it's fine"

she and her bf would regularly hang out with the guy who ran the only italian pizzeria in town and they would shit-talk our food for hours. mad respect.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Marie Antoinette?
What cuisine should that be?

[–] qarbone 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Eat the rich

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

A fillet of some kind.

[–] FlyingSquid 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Chicken Tikka Masala was invented in the UK. I can't think of a single item of French cuisine I would choose over Chicken Tikka Masala.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I know it's part of your transition period and are forced by law to continue the 100 year war on a culinary manner.

I'd say that the proper French culinary colonialist equivalent to the Tikka Massala is the Bahn Mi sandwhich and that feels like a proper match for it.

But now come up with a dish that doeesn't take any inspiration from former colonies and I think most of them can be beaten by a simple onion soup

[–] Skullgrid 2 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I can’t think of a single item of French cuisine I would choose over Chicken Tikka Masala.

you're insulting yourself and CTM more than french cuisine there mate.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree. But we don’t get recognised. I couldn’t be more amused.

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[–] Dasus 5 points 22 hours ago

More like according an American person who identifies as French.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's ironic that they've missed out Ireland, throwing some great hunger shade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

I supposed the joke was that non existent GB was that they dont even do cuisine

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's "soggy pastry" talking about?

[–] feedum_sneedson 2 points 20 hours ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest "Danish".

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[–] MothmanDelorian 2 points 20 hours ago

Lol, the French cannot even make wine as good as Italians can and they think they can touch their food?

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