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If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president, it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.

Many of my journalist colleagues have attempted to beat back the tide under banners like “fighting disinformation” and “accountability.” While these efforts are admirable, the past few years have changed my own internal calculus. Thinkers like Jean-Paul Sartre and Hannah Arendt warned us that the point of this deluge is not to persuade, but to overwhelm and paralyze our capacity to act. More recently, researchers have found that the viral outrage disseminated on social media in response to these ridiculous claims actually reduces the effectiveness of collective action. The result is a media environment that keeps us in a state of debilitating fear and anger, endlessly reacting to our oppressors instead of organizing against them.

Cross’ book contains a meticulous catalog of social media sins which many people who follow and care about current events are probably guilty of—myself very much included. She documents how tech platforms encourage us, through their design affordances, to post and seethe and doomscroll into the void, always reacting and never acting.

But perhaps the greatest of these sins is convincing ourselves that posting is a form of political activism, when it is at best a coping mechanism—an individualist solution to problems that can only be solved by collective action. This, says Cross, is the primary way tech platforms atomize and alienate us, creating “a solipsism that says you are the main protagonist in a sea of NPCs.”

In the days since the inauguration, I’ve watched people on Bluesky and Instagram fall into these same old traps. My timeline is full of reactive hot takes and gotchas by people who still seem to think they can quote-dunk their way out of fascism—or who know they can’t, but simply can’t resist taking the bait. The media is more than willing to work up their appetites. Legacy news outlets cynically chase clicks (and ad dollars) by disseminating whatever sensational nonsense those in power are spewing.

This in turn fuels yet another round of online outrage, edgy takes, and screenshots exposing the “hypocrisy” of people who never cared about being seen as hypocrites, because that’s not the point. Even violent fantasies about putting billionaires to the guillotine are rendered inept in these online spaces—just another pressure release valve to harmlessly dissipate our rage instead of compelling ourselves to organize and act.

This is the opposite of what media, social or otherwise, is supposed to do. Of course it’s important to stay informed, and journalists can still provide the valuable information we need to take action. But this process has been short-circuited by tech platforms and a media environment built around seeking reaction for its own sake.

“For most people, social media gives you this sense that unless you care about everything, you care about nothing. You must try to swallow the world while it’s on fire,” said Cross. “But we didn’t evolve to be able to absorb this much info. It makes you devalue the work you can do in your community.”

It’s not that social media is fundamentally evil or bereft of any good qualities. Some of my best post-Twitter moments have been spent goofing around with mutuals on Bluesky, or waxing romantic about the joys of human creativity and art-making in an increasingly AI-infested world. But when it comes to addressing the problems we face, no amount of posting or passive info consumption is going to substitute the hard, unsexy work of organizing.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago) (1 children)

I suspect the vast majority of people turning to social media as a pressure release valve feel disempowered, and don't know what more they can reasonably do. When voting is no longer enough, and you have little time or money to spare, what's next? How can a fly meaningfully change the path of a rhino stampede?

This article is insightful, but practically useless. I think it would be better if it also presented specific actions and achievable goals that would lead to shutting down the encroaching fascism.

[–] bitjunkie 6 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

People need to know that posting doesn't actually do anything!

posts an article about it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 42 minutes ago

Posts comment about it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

TLDR - We need more Luigis against the techbros

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 8 minutes ago

Luigi 1 didn't accomplish anything, though.

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 2 minutes ago

Reminder that the USA has a nationwide strike at State Capital Buildings TODAY.

[–] 58008 1 points 4 minutes ago

Organising to do what exactly? A majority of the US population wants this nightmare. The Trump administration is expected to destroy norms and institutions to bring about their bigot's utopia, they ran on that promise.

It's really that dire. It's beyond the reach of the checks and balances that have kept things somewhat on-track up until just after 9/11. Checks and balances are precisely what the voters want to delete from the courts.

If Trump wants a 3rd term, he will get it, and his voters will not be moved by marches or sit-ins or AOC exquisitely calling out the scum and villainy from the floor of the senate. Either talk Luigification, or let the people post their fucking memes in peace.

[–] blazeknave 2 points 36 minutes ago

Not a comment on the merit of the article, but a tangential thought: Fediverse has presented the same amount of doom to scroll as the algorithms. I open my phone to get a break from work, life, etc, and any app I think to open for social or news, presents the same anxiety of "I just can't deal with that type of shit right now; where can I bury my head in the sand?"

[–] FlashMobOfOne 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

What will matter in the end isn't what you put online.

It'll be how good your memory becomes when ICE comes knocking on your door asking about your neighbors. That's the hard part.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

The greatest thing that social media ever did for humanity was in its ability to allow all of us to talk to each other in an open platform.

Those private corporate platforms have slowly been eroded and controlled to only waste our time and designed to keep us all angry, afraid, anxious and confused.

Open decentralized social media is bringing us back to that era 20 years ago when social media was just starting and people just talked and openly discussed the issues of the day with one another. It doesn't matter what kind of platform we have or can create, as long as it is decentralized and controlled by people, everyone will always find value in it because it allows us to talk to one another. The greatest thing I've ever found in taking part in the fediverse was in connecting to like minded people who want to talk about the important issues of the day without all the distractions of advertising and without having having to give up my privacy or security and have my identity sold to the highest bidder.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago

Same. I’ve learned a lot since I joined Lemmy.

I genuinely believe centralised social media was created to make you feel like you’re doing something.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

While I like to agree with that vision of decentralized social media, even here on lemmy we have our own pitfalls. Echo chambers are unchecked and defederation (even justified) happens.

I don't assume everyone here is a real person. There was a article recently that AI was training "persuasiveness" using reddit subreddits. I have to believe a similar trial exists on the fediverse least I be caught off guard.

Plus, there are a lot of folks here (it seems like a majority sometimes in my personal experience) that are quick to advocate violence/sabotage in lieu of negotiation and debate. That reaks of puppeteering; there can't be that many arseholes here, right?

I know I have some strong biases that lean towards peace, and I'm confused sometimes why a comment of mine in the fediverse gathers double digit upvotes steadily only to plummet to the negatives overnight. I get old reddit botnet vibes on some topics.

I suppose I want to like lemmy, the freedom, these communities, but it is still polarizing and influenceable by [insert tech/political/financial interests]. I don't trust this enough to recommend to friends and family, but my presence here makes it a fraction more what I want to be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

Plus, there are a lot of folks here (it seems like a majority sometimes in my personal experience) that are quick to advocate violence/sabotage in lieu of negotiation and debate. That reeks of puppeteering; there can’t be that many arseholes here, right?

That's because there are a lot of marginlized folks here - gay, trans, autistic, linux users - who have spent decades disucssing politely and negotiating.

Problem is the people throwing Nazi salutes and writing all these executive orders have, quite clearly, said they want us all either dead or in camps.

Now I wouldn't dream of speaking for everyone else, but I'm certainly not going to be attempting to politely debate myself out of a one-way train ride, if it comes to that.

So, yeah, while I don't encourage violence for the sake of violence, the neoliberal 'oh dear we must all be very polite at all times and let rationality solve all our issues!' is dead and worthless.

I've taken classes for and armed myself, and I have zero qualms with defending myself and friends and family by any means necessary if it comes down to a situation where it's us-or-them, regardless of who 'them' is.

If you told me even five years ago that I'd be carrying a gun and be fully prepared to use deadly force to defend myself I'd have called you goofy, and if you told me that I'd be willing to use it against agents of the state if they came after me, I'd think you have lost your damn mind.

But, well, it's been a long 5 years, and frankly, IMO, the rule of law and the trust in any governmental institutions have been eroded into nothing.

[–] horse_battery_staple 4 points 25 minutes ago

Hahahaha you said linux users in the same breath of marginalized folk.

The cloud is linux. I don't think social media is where we're marginalized.

I agree with everything else you've said.

https://socialistra.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 39 minutes ago

Fuck negotiating and debate. That's what has allowed the rich to erode or steal everything we could have had. That's what allows wimpy politicians to get walked all over as the bullies take over again and again.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

allow all of us to talk to each other

I was doing that just fine 30/40 years ago with BBS, newsgroups, and later with forums such as Lemmy. Social media put a name or a face on people, and was combined with the regular "eternal septembers," but it didn't bring anything useful to the conversation IMHO.

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[–] fuzzy_ad 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Open decentralized social media is bringing us back to that era 20 years ago when social media was just starting and people just talked and openly discussed the issues of the day with one another.

Unless the mods remove your posts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Then start your own server and post whatever you want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Only for the moment. Spammers have already found us, but so far in small numbers. All the other bad parts of social media are already here too, just so far not in large amounts and so you can find useful content. But those who gain from the garbage are coming and decentralization doesn't help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The next step, in my opinion, is strong privacy and decentralized organization that fully leverages constitutional rights.

I.e. a privacy preserving social media where labour unions, political parties and religious groups can federate with each other. Servers hosted on their premises and members register through an on-premise process.

A church in a foreign country could generate a thousand aliases and distribute them to their federated sister organizations in a privacy preserving way. Only the church knows which organizations got which aliases and they protect this information.

Your local labour union chapter picks up 20 of those aliases and distributes them to members. They are the only one who knows the person behind the alias.

An observer in this private fediverse trying to obtain the identity would first need to approach the church. The church can stall them and warn downstream through a canary.

The labour union chapter observes the canary and immediately wipes all information.

And if that fails, then full I2P and Tor, with nodes hosted on-premise of churches, political parties and labour unions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

constitutional rights

Hate to say it, but there's the very real possibility those days are numbered.

As it sits, those of us that are savvy need to be actively using and promoting privacy-centric communications methodology to ensure we have a means to communicate safely and effectively as time goes on and those tights are further eroded. I don't see the internet completely dying, given the technical nature of it, but peering and connectivity will likely be hampered in the coming months and years, so it is in our best interest to find and employ feasible solutions now to attempt getting out ahead of anything those muppets come up with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah, the US Constitution is just a piece of paper now because nobody's enforcing it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It may be a good time to note that the constitution page on whitehouse.gov is still 404ing.

It's available on congress.gov and archived under bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov, but the current admin has yet to put it back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Oh god, I haven't checked the White House website since it went full fascist. A big-ass picture of Dear Leader right at the top. North Korea, China, Russia...even those countries don't have anything so blatantly cult of personality on the front page of their government websites.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"bread and circuses" has been an effective strategy for thousands of years.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo 1 points 6 minutes ago

The field manual was to cripple the nation (Nazi Germany) so it could be conquered by other nations.

The USA being conquered won't reduce fascism in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

This is a very enlighting article

Posted from my iPhone

[–] rottingleaf 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But when it comes to addressing the problems we face, no amount of posting or passive info consumption is going to substitute the hard, unsexy work of organizing.

No shit, so when I'd say this in year 2013, it wasn't worthless nerd screeching aimed at satisfying my hunger for attention which I don't get because I'm a worthless nerd and can't accept the new world where tech helps, you know, normal socialized people, not like me, to fix every problem with their mutual likes and reposts and flashmobs.

Seems damn clear that radio reproductors on German streets didn't help against Nazism.

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[–] reddig33 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure you can. Fight online propaganda with online propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Even violent fantasies about putting billionaires to the guillotine are rendered inept in these online spaces—just another pressure release valve to harmlessly dissipate our rage instead of compelling ourselves to organize and act.

ahem lemmy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe we won't be guillotining them anytime soon, but we can at least slow their roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVgNJf6CsBA

[–] 88leo 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Agree, best thing we can do is starve their platforms and deny them advertising revenue. Just delete our accounts.

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[–] big_slap 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

getting the fediverse into the mainstream should be our focus, a single entity will not be able to silence anyone

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

when it comes to addressing the problems we face, no amount of posting or passive info consumption is going to substitute the hard, unsexy work of organizing.

The fediverse is great, but the problem is that it isn't organizing. It isn't mobilizing people to scare politicians and businesses into behaving better.

[–] big_slap 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

It's a medium for organizing. You should act in your community how you think best and let people who want to ensure we have non-corporate communications be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

One of the problems with online forums for organizing is that it's hard to naturally build an organizational structure. It's possible, but I think it requires experienced organizers to start choosing collaborators from the userbase.

  • in online forums, people get upvoted based on how much users agree with the comment. They are rewarded for being popular, not for having a direct impact on the problem being discussed.
  • IRL people who commit effort to the cause get a certain amount of social capital, and the satisfaction of having an effect. They also form social bonds with other people in the group. Participants are rewarded for having an effect.

We haven't seen a lot of organizing boiling out of the existing forums (Reddit, Facebook, blogs) and microblogging (Twitter) platforms. There have been a bunch of leaderless movements, like #metoo and BLM, but those have had a moment and then faded out. If they were effective tools for organizing, I would expect to see more organizations come out of them and persist.

Conversely, volunteer community organizations form all the time - people are physically situated near people experiencing similar problems who are invested in solutions they think will work for their community. In-person organization is self perpetuating in the sense that there is an inherent reward for having an effect.

I think it's possible to use online tools to create a movement, but like the author of the article says, most of us spend our time posting and upvoting rather than doing something that will change policy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago

Anyway ... You're sitting here posting on a fuckin forum. Go do something.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Hey! I've seen this one before!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

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It's a thought. My kitchen appliances are lent out right now, and I don't actually know how to bake.

But I seem to understand enough leftist theory to bridge those who, like me, have been brainwashed to see communism and socialism as derisives and terms of contempt.

I'm also going through a psychotic break because a lot of stressors piled up at the same time seventy-seven million voters decided to give the Genie's lamp to Jaffar.

[–] perviouslyiner 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

"I’m glad there’s OxyContin and video games to keep those people quiet" - Andreessen, allegedly.

[–] NOT_RICK 2 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for sharing this article. What a disgustingly crass sentiment

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