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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if I were a spy in any authoritarian country I'd probably take it immediately before Trump just starts outing them again and getting them killed.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/10/leaked-dozens-of-cia-informants-killed-captured-or-compromised-report/

[–] Thrashy 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah. We can quibble over the moral dimension of public servants getting out vs staying in to try and stop the coming insanity, but any HUMINT asset on assignment outside of friendly first-world nations would be stupid not to take early retirement ASAP. Even if Trump doesn't burn them like he did to so many last time around, there's a drug-addled oligarch in debt to several foreign countries who's leading a squad of college-age numpties from department to department on a mission to extract all their confidential data and put it on unsecured servers for nebulous ends. Somebody's gonna leak or lose or sell their names, guaranteed.

[–] AbouBenAdhem 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That seems about as smart as the “de-Baathification” of Iraq: it instantly creates a class of alienated ex-officials with an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the state, who now find their interests aligned with the opponents of the new regime.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

The new regime could use some knowledgeable enemies though, no? 🥹

[–] Atropos 7 points 1 day ago

I don't think anyone has accused these fuckers of having an overabundance of schooling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Maybe that's the point. Removing all of the institutional knowledge from the CIA would be a pretty big blow to trump.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when the biggest security violation were crates of classified material in a mansion's bathroom?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

The good old days.

[–] AshMan85 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They swore an oath to the constitution, not trump

[–] mlg 37 points 1 day ago

mmm yeah the CIA, an organization renowned for following the constitution lol.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

That was the old America, apparently the new American motto is "of the Trump, by the Trump, for the Trump."

[–] DarkFuture 12 points 1 day ago

Hey look. Another Hitler-ish move.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 20 points 1 day ago

That means Musk has the identities of every CIA employee

[–] sumguyonline 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will the new enemy of the USA be the people?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is one of those where you can't tell if it's a good thing or a bad thing. 🤔

[–] TheFeatureCreature 47 points 1 day ago

A fascist moving to take control over every branch of the US government is not a good thing.

Especially not something as powerful and far-reaching like the CIA.

The only silver lining I can see here is that Trump would fill the CIA with incompetence and it would kneecap their effectiveness.

[–] FlyingSquid 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are lots of good reasons to get rid of the CIA. They aren't outweighed by the fact that Russia, China and other world powers have their own foreign intelligence services and without a CIA to do anything about them, Americans are well and truly fucked. Fucking Mongolia could infiltrate the U.S. without a foreign intelligence service.

You will not find me praising the CIA any more than you will find me praising the FSB. But the FSB will still be there if the CIA is gone and they will see that as a big opportunity.

As with most things, it's not a black-and-white issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trump shouldn't be worried about Mexicans crossing his wall, he should be worried about the Mongolians! They've got horse archers 🐎 🏹

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

I’m thinking Mongolian rule would be an improvement

[–] kreskin 5 points 1 day ago

Putin will be very very pleased.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

That seems counterproductive, but what do I know. Fascists gonna fascism.