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I am a self proclaimed wiki-phile, I always donated when I could. It was kind of like going to the library without the fresh book smell.

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[–] gimmelemmy 1 points 23 hours ago

It is an op by the people who have recently seized power. They do NOT want the free flow of information

[–] DarkFuture 24 points 2 days ago

Wikipedia is a massive source of free knowledge.

Conservatives do not like knowledge and have declared a war on it.

We live in an anti-intellectual society. That's why a felon rapist who illegally attempted to overturn an election is running the show and destroying our federal government, along with an unelected billionaire.

[–] Dorkyd68 24 points 2 days ago

The right has always hated Wikipedia because it's gives free knowledge. They think every page is littered with lies

[–] Tedesche 4 points 1 day ago

Okay, now I’m OoTL—where are you seeing a bunch of folks hating on Wikipedia?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 232 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Elon Musk and his cult followers are getting pissy with and declaring war on Wikipedia because they think it's biased against them. So basically, Wikipedia is being dragged into this right wing culture war.

[–] GraniteM 15 points 2 days ago

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not really a right wing culture war at this point, they're trying to destroy any source of information not controlled by the rich fascists who've seized control of the state.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

CIA has their own wikipedia editors. As do most large companies & rich people. Wikipedia is not exactly neutral, but for melon it’s not biased enough.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 35 points 3 days ago

Oh man, its 2008 again. Can't wait for them to rediscover Conservapedia and Voat.

[–] foggy 146 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you're seeing hate at wikipedia it is manufactured by Elon Musk.

Someone Luigi this fuck already.

[–] poo 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Agreed, but watch out, Lemmy.World has some super shitty bootlicking mods going around deleting any comment that insinuate Musk should have anything less than a perfectly healthy long life. Thinking of switching instances because this one is failing lol.

[–] zachimusprime44 3 points 2 days ago

Imma not delete it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Good thing we have other instances then. Maybe we need a Luigi instance

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I haven't looked back since I left. Very much recommend

[–] eclipse 3 points 2 days ago

Didn't realise we were using Luigi as a verb now.

I'm on board with the vernacular.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago

People who are inconvenienced by facts and reality are trying to start a war against them

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago

Nothing changed at Wikipedia but FOX told me it was WOKE!

-People who Do Their Own Research!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

Hate for Wikipedia comes from a few places.

The first and most important is that most people who have tried to edit Wikipedia have their first edit reverted, usually with good reason, because they don't understand the procedures and policies. Unfortunately these procedures and policies are what maintains high quality.

Related is news articles and blogs about edit wars and less frequently that an article or group of articles is genuinely captured by one volunteer who will protect their own little fiefdoms and not allow anyone else to edit them. This happens but it's pretty uncommon and the structure of Wikipedia means that it only really stands on fairly obscure articles.

It's also true that Wikipedia does have an inherent western liberal bias. It's subtle but it is there and results from the fact that for the majority of Wikipedia editors western liberalism is the water they swim in. Any claim that is counter to this ideology needs to be cited up the wazoo whereas claims that are confidant with it will often slide without citation. Those with a strong attachment to an alternative ideology often find it infuriating.

Finally there are individuals who would rather have the arbiter of truth be the powerful rather than a relatively democratic institution.

All that said Wikipedia is a remarkable achievement and an invaluable part of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Which "bunch of people"? Question is way too vague to answer meaningfully, there are many people who have one reason or another to hate Wikipedia.

[–] serenissi 4 points 2 days ago

I 'hate' wikimedia foundation for one thing: they complied and gave away editors email to court and censored one page upon fraudulent lawsuit by a propaganda news channel in India. Sure if they didn't, they might get threatened to be blocked in India but I really doubt it would've hold long enough given that whole wikipedia can be downloaded fairly easily (or it is trivial to set up a mirror). They probably won't get donations though in that case :/ so probably the move is reasonable?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Elon started badmouthing them. I don’t know specifically why, but it was he.

[–] brucethemoose 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

This has been escalating for like two decades.

[–] serenissi 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Few article I saw, all are very basic and low quality. How's that 'escalating'?

[–] brucethemoose 1 points 2 days ago

The point is that many conservatives have hated Wikipedia for a long time, and Conservapedia is a microcosm of why, not that the alternatives are necessarily good.

[–] sleepmode 3 points 2 days ago

Always pay extra attention when someone is hating on something. Typical sealioning or rotten fish social engineering tactics.