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[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I thought they already said it was going to end at S2 last year?

[–] shalafi 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Long before that.

In November 2022, it was renewed for a second and final season, which is expected to release sometime in 2025.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(TV_series)

This is only news because of Gaiman's news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Wasn't aware of that. I feel better now

[–] ElectroVagrant 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd be interested in whether this was related to Gaiman being that involved with production, or if there was viewership data that suggested it wouldn't sufficiently recover the costs of production and this was a convenient out.

I suspect if they thought it would be profitable enough they'd go ahead, considering their continued support of controversial figures.

Edit:
Skimmed the article, was just already planned to end with season 2 prior to allegations, so they didn't have a hand in it.

[–] lordnikon 1 points 17 hours ago

I think you are right hell, house of cards got one more season after spacey was kicked off the show.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Carnelian 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

First of all, wow @ the commenters who want to support this disgusting piece of subhuman garbage despite all that he’s admitted to

Second of all, go and actually read the article if his work is supposedly that important to you. The show is simply ending at season two, which has been planned since before the allegations broke. This appears to have nothing to do with his grotesque, horrifying crimes

[–] essteeyou 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What has he admitted to? I've read a bunch of allegations, and from what I've read he claimed that everything was consensual. Perhaps I missed more recent news or something though.

[–] Carnelian 2 points 9 hours ago

No, that is what I’m referring to specifically. If you’ve read the accounts it’s sickening for him to say it was all consensual. It undeniably demonstrates that he is a narcissistic abuser.

His entire statement is actually deranged tbh. Just read it. Reiterating over and over again that he’s confident nothing he did is per se illegal. Nevertheless he is aggressively willing to “put in the work needed to deserve our trust”. Multi paragraph tangent about the unrelated things he believes he did wrong that he wants to apologize for (being…emotionally unavailable and careless with people’s hearts? No details provided. Extremely weird thing to bring up in light of the extreme nature of the accusations that he “half recognizes”)

Anyway, he’s left it as an exercise for us to imagine which half of the allegations he ‘recognizes’. I don’t see even the most charitable interpretation as being excusable

[–] MrFappy 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And shit like this is why I cancelled Netflix almost 2 years ago and haven’t looked back. I’m just sad to miss the stand up specials that have come out in that time; but not so sad that I would resub.

[–] NOT_RICK 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can always pirate the specials and find a way to send the comedians some love another way, like buying merch or seeing them live.

[–] MrFappy 1 points 17 hours ago

This is very true.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

They're still allegations correct? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? If he is convicted, there will be punishments. Destroying a person's legacy before due process needs to stop.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

This would be a salient point if Gaiman was being thrown in prison. Any business entity he has dealings with is absolutely free to say “we don’t want to be associated with someone who has been accused.”

[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If it were one allegation then sure, but there are over 5 allegations of people that have been confirmed to be close to him and from what I remember Gaiman basically confirmed he slept with his caretaker on her first day (he claimed it was consensual but she explained in thorough detail that he took advantage of her). Read up on the stories, they're morbid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

And Darkhorse has bailed on him. That is huge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Lol. The Netflix marketing department isn't a courthouse. Deal with it.

[–] zoostation 3 points 16 hours ago

That only applies to the fucking legal system. Everyone else only has the obligation to use their best judgement. The legal system can put you in jail so it has a higher standard. Being accused of crimes is not a protected status.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

At least they cant ban the already created books, I barelt started reading them preaallegations and have been looking forward to them forever, not like they are suddenly going to be bad after being reccomended them 100s of times

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Be careful, don't you know that you aren't allowed to enjoy things made by bad people?

Don't mind me, I'll be over here with American Gods, Good Omens, and the Harry Potter books. Not enjoying them one bit. Because I'm a good person who believes good things and only supports good people.

More seriously, I'll try to buy any future copies of his stuff used, but I'm not going to sweat it. There are far more things I purchase and use on a daily basis with far worse people and power structures behind them. Not going to worry about a single author.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Just going to be annoying discussing anything I read online without ppl chiming in about how the author sucks, basically forced to talk about his work in fringe communities that support the author too much

[–] lordnikon 3 points 17 hours ago

I agree once art has been put out there it's no longer just owned by the artist. If they are a Dbag just means I can still their art guilt free. Note this only goes for books, paintings and such where it's a single artist. I try my best not to fuck over second AD just becase a writer is shit head.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I hate this shit!
Some things are more important than their creator

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

If copyright law were sensible no one would have to involve him or DC Comics to make whatever Sandman work they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Not enriching a rapist is more important than a TV show.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I've apparently been living under a rock and hadn't heard about this. He's a predator, my god. How sad for the women he assaulted, and how disappointing for his fans.

[–] JeeBaiChow 1 points 10 hours ago

Not like we make them president or something...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

It is difficult. In some ways some things are more important than their creators, but also, if someone is a shit person, and you can avoid enriching them further and allowing them to continue to be shit. I'm just fine with that. I can still read and enjoy my sandman graphic novels if I feel the need. I can still enjoy and appreciate the beauty of them knowing he's not getting more money or a pass for being a piece of shit human

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It was announced that the second season would be the last in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't know that. I do feel better, but they must be truncating the rest of the story quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

They're just reporting it again to make it seem like the decision was made because of the allegations against him. It gets them ad revenue, in other words.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I've read the entirity of Sandman once a year for the last few decades since I was a teenager and loved the first season.

But...

A) There was never a third season planned

and

B) Not funneling money to a systemic abuser is more important anyways.