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"Liberal: How can you go to bed at night after promoting violence? I get that they're Nazis but it's still violence.

Me:"

Bellow is an image of Homer Simpson asleep, tucked in to a cosy looking bed with a big contented smile on his face.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Nazis aren't people.

"B-b-but you're not better, you're dehumanizing them and they are people with thoughts and feefees!"

Fuck them - if you're a literal Nazi, you're no better than a rabid dog and should be killed.

πŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

The point of not dehumanising them isn't to spare their feelings, nor to avoid "sinking to their level", it's because dehumanising them removes their responsability and accountability for their own actions, as well as ignores the systemic nature of the issues we're facing, making it entirely counterproductive.

They very much ARE people, people who are choosing to harm other people for their own gain because we live under systems, invented designed implemented and enforced by people that actively and deliberately encourage them to do so, for the ultimate benefit of said hand full of people.

Rabid dogs have no choice, they are not responsible for their actions, they have no way out of their condition, and ultimately when they die, unless they bit another animal, the problem will not persist, none of which can be said for nazis.

[–] EvolvedTurtle 1 points 1 hour ago

Next to my wife

[–] finitebanjo 4 points 1 hour ago

The CCP helped get Nazis in the White House, Tankies are all Nazi supporters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

The only good authoritarian is a dead one.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago

Nazi lives dont matter

[–] TankovayaDiviziya -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Do they condemn violence against Nazis? As far I have yet seen, they are willing bedfellows to fascists when it comes to economic policies. But I haven't heard any liberals object to hitting Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The new 196 mods on Blahaj object to killing Nazis. Telling people to kill Nazis is a bannable offence. They claim it's against the instance rules, which isn't true.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Could be insurance to prevent being banned by admins for promoting violence, regardless of who is committing it and to whom being committed against. The r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned by Reddit for incitement to violence; chapotraphouse users went to fediverse to setup lemmy.ml.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Nah. Drag went and talked to Ada about it, and she said she wouldn't ban anybody for that unless they were actively planning crimes on the site. Drag showed the screenshots to the mods, and they didn't care. They weren't scared of the admin, they were hiding their own views behind the admin as an excuse.

[–] Psaldorn 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"just leave fascism to fester and spread until it requires another world war, that's much less violent"

Makes total sense.

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[–] horse_battery_staple 38 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Bash the fasc

They're trying to label antifa as a terrorist org. Think about that for a second.

Edit: thanks to @[email protected] it's come to my attention that this is not widely covered. Link to the bill is below

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/26

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

fucking morons. antifa is a concept, not a "org" like the proud pussy boys

the bad thing is they can label anyone they want as "antifa" then detain them without any actual charges.

"that's illegal!!!"

yea. and?

habeas corpus, due process, "innocent until proven guilty" -- bid farewell to all that, and anything else that was protecting you from them and not the other way around

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What boggles my mind is, I can't find any articles talking about it. I had to read the actual document submitted to Congress.

It's complicity in the media is what it is.

[–] Hamartia 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is the big problem with centrist media fact checkers: paltering doesn't count towards the tallying of deceptions.

[–] MutilationWave 2 points 2 hours ago

They don't want to be seen as sympathetic in any way to scary terrorist antifa. The mainstream media is compromised.

These fuckers in the new regime are trying to go after NPR for fuck's sake, which if anything sanewashed Trump extensively. Just reporting the words he said is not biased.

[–] TrickDacy 1 points 4 hours ago (19 children)

This post was designed to just piss people off. It serves no other purpose.

[–] SkunkWorkz 1 points 1 hour ago

It’s just pure imagination. A power fantasy. Bet op has never bashed a Nazis skull in.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lies. It also made me feel good. Two purposes.

[–] horse_battery_staple 1 points 3 hours ago

Are you worried about violence?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Copypasting this comment I copied from lemmy a couple months ago. ~~Sorry OP I can’t remeber who you are.~~

β€œOne of the core tenants of neoliberal education is that violence is always wrong, it's never the answer, etc. They repeat it so often and in so many places because it's at obvious odds with the state. They use violence against us so often and on such wide scales that their only option is to convince that it's not violence.

Over producing with limited resources is violence. Throwing away food while people starve is violence. Leaving buildings empty while people die of the cold on the street is violence. Preventing the sick and dying from accessing healthcare is violence. Evicting people from their homes is violence. Depriving the chronically ill and physically disabled of the means of survival because they can't generate capital for capitalists is violence. Climate change is violence.

The truth is that they deeply fear what we would do if we actually recognized all those things as violence. They do literally everything in their power to prevent us from achieving class consciousness. They have infected literally every single facet of society in an effort to keep us from seeing each other as human.”

Edit: Nevermind I found the original comment. All credit goes to @[email protected]

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 3 hours ago

None dare speak of Social Murder.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Going online and telling other people to commit violence is incredibly easy. It also has little to no impact on actual violent activity.

By contrast, you've got politicians actively running cover for paramilitary in the US. If you can shoot someone and get away with it - as in during the Rittenhouse murder, the Daniel Perry murder, the NYPD subway shooting, various murders of migrants on the border... you can take this all the way back to Rodney King or the MOVE Bombing if you like - then you have a strong incentive to do it again.

By contrast, if you're a Christopher Dorner or a Micah Xavier Johnson or a John Allen Muhammad or a Luigi Mangione, state officials will have unlimited resources and full license to take them in dead or alive.

Consider a case in Houston Texas of police demolishing the side of a building to get at a suspect of a police shooting

You can talk all the shit you want about fascists but when push comes to shove where do you think you're going to be standing? Fascism works because the fascists are killers and the shitposters are terminally online dorks.

[–] horse_battery_staple 1 points 1 hour ago

And where pray tell will you stand? What conversations are you having in the meat space? You talk a lot about the real world in your comment replies but I see very little talk about proposed solutions or actionable content. You seem to yell at the same clouds of those that you chide. Just from a different angle.

[–] damnedfurry -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If you can shoot someone and get away with it - as in during the Rittenhouse murder

This was absolutely clear-cut self defense, and there is so much direct video evidence out there accessible to the public, including the whole damned trial, that anyone who still claims Rittenhouse "murdered" anyone in Kenosha is outing themselves as an ideologue who readily rejects inconvenient facts.

It's not murder to stop someone who is literally in the middle of an attempt to kill you, and "he shouldn't have been there" is 'she was asking for it by choosing to dress that way'-tier apologism.

[–] MutilationWave 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

No way. The kid took a guy illegally across state lines with the intention to intimidate if not shoot protestors to protect fucking insured business property. He went there with ill intent, it was recognized, and people fearfully reacted to subdue him.

He got his wish. He got to shoot two and walked scott free. Then made a bunch of money while psychopaths took him on tour around the country for people to cheer because he shot some "liberals."

I don't care about the fact that he thought he was fighting for his life. Maybe he was. But he engineered that situation himself. That is not at all comparable with the choosing to dress that way bullshit.

[–] damnedfurry -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The kid took a gun illegally across state lines

This is literally untrue at one end and deliberately deceitful on the other. Literally the only portion of that sentence that is correct and not misleading is "the kid", lmao:

  • He didn't take possession of the rifle until the morning after he arrived in Kenosha
  • "State lines" is deceitfully repeated ad nauseam, stating something that's literally true, but is obviously stated specifically that way with the intent to create the illusion that he traveled a great distance, far away from his community. But here are the facts:
    • He traveled 20 miles--he literally lived on the other side of the border.
    • He used to work there, his father lives there, etc.--this WAS his community, lol.

Pretty hilarious that the very first thing you retort with is both false and deceitful. People like you don't even know the most basic facts of the matter, and what you do know, you deliberately twist with deceitful intent. You've got your narrative, and damned if you aren't going to stick to it like glue, no matter what the reality is.

Thanks for proving my point so succinctly.

[–] MutilationWave 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I wasn't aware the distance was so short or he had connections to the area. That's fair and thank you for educating me.

The fact remains the took a gun to "protect" insured businesses. The real reason was to intimidate or get a chance to shoot a "liberal".

I mean no deceit.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm with you on intent. He had no place being there, and it surely wasn't to protect anyone.

But the guy above is correct in regards to the event's timeline/order of action. Rittenhouse sucks, he was a child who was radicalised to hate and to fear others, and then he cried (like the child he was, at 17) in front of a panel and got brought into the conservative media fold where he now, as an adult, is an absolute shit stain for not recognizing his actions or the vitriol of the people around him. I pity 17 year old Rittenhouse, no one is adult enough at that age to be carrying a gun in that kind of a situation with that kind of mindset. The 22 year old he is now doesn't get that pity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

be safe people

mask up
gloves
leave your phone at home
and ffs don't post about it --anywhere

[–] MutilationWave 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Burner phone bought with cash set to auto upload to somewhere untraceable. After you are far away and safe.

If can't afford that and feel you need to document, disable all location tracking on your phone and put it in airplane mode. Do not take it out of airplane mode unless there is an extreme emergency. Not even wifi allowed. Disable all biometric unlock. Make a long PIN and memorize it, don't write it down. Keep the phone locked or set it up to lock with one click in case it is taken from you.

Just in total agreement here about everything else but we need proof.

[–] horse_battery_staple 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If you're organizing use E2E comms and if you're researching use Tor Browser. Better yet use a Tails USB on a coffee shop wifi.

https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-use-signal

https://www.torproject.org/download/

https://tails.net/doc/first_steps/index.en.html

And don't communicate over email, even encrypted email.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Violence against Nazi isn't violence, it's exercising your civic duty.

Punch a local nazi today!

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