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[–] spirinolas 135 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

As an European it's pretty clear now that the US is our enemy. This is just the start. We really need to put our military in order and prepare for the inevitable attack.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The US is also the enemy of the US. Its worst one, in fact.

[–] harmsy 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Damn americans! They ruined America!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

They really did!

[–] rational_lib 31 points 4 days ago

The good news is we are a very stupid enemy

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It's impossible to catch up to the US war machine in 4 years only. We can only start the process, but I also doubt the US would sit by idly and let us become too powerful.

[–] Olhonestjim 31 points 5 days ago (19 children)

The nice thing is that Trump will replace our best generals and other leadership with utter incompetents.

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[–] spirinolas 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We don't really need the power to be able to attack the US. Just enough to be able to defend ourselves and that is far from impossible even in 4 years.

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[–] DicJacobus 12 points 3 days ago

At what point is someone going to tell Donald that the end result of pushing and pushing on this narrative to the point of realization... Is going to result in Article 5 being activated, Europe and NATO formally going to war against the US, and the US tearing itself apart as factions decide to move to the Ammo box after the soap, ballot and jury boxes failed.

This is absolutely a red line. and it will cause a civil war. as well as the total destruction of the world order. Xi and Putin may end up getting so erect that they die of heart attacks.

[–] [email protected] 227 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Sorry for multiple posts, but my points are different.

Impose tariffs on Denmark? Do you all know what we import from Denmark? Medication and medical devices. So that would further increase the cost of healthcare in the US. He already signed an executive order to undo the $35 insulin cap for Medicaid recipients. He is actively raising healthcare prices.

Tariffs would only hurt both countries.

[–] eran_morad 129 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It all makes sense when you accept that he's been installed by our enemies to destroy the US.

[–] Dadifer 74 points 5 days ago (10 children)

No, actually he was installed by our oligarchs to destroy the country, so they can buy it for cheap. Just like last time!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago

Our

Enemies

[–] wreckedcarzz 5 points 3 days ago

"they are the same picture"

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago

There is no way to impose tariffs on Danish goods. We're part of the EU, and the inner market, so we'll just send the goods from some other EU country. So any tariff on Denmark would have to be a tariff on EU.

[–] andallthat 46 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Tariffs seem to be Trump's go-to move nowadays. "Grab them by the wallet".

  • To Putin: stop the war or tariffs!
  • To Europe: buy more US oil or tariffs!
  • To Denmark: gimme Greenland or tariffs!
  • To Melania (probably): pretend you can still bear being in the same room with me or tariffs!
  • McDonald's - "cash or card, sir?" "Tariffs!"
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's also an integrated EU economy, so I'd assume the entire European single market would retaliate.

But yeah, he doesn't care about or understand that. Or at least won't until there's active unrest in America over the crazy inflation and layoffs.

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[–] btaf45 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't know why the Danish PM would waste his time even talking to Traitorapist Trump. The whole world knows Trump is a notorious liar.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is wild to think that EU-US relations might worsen because Trump wants to annex Greenland, jeez.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I believe that is therepublicans fascist's actual goal

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

Could be. People need to realize how strong the EU can be if they act as one. Just observe how hard authoritarian regime tries to kill the EU.

Yurop monke stronk together

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[–] TheBat 93 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The US president spoke to Mette Frederiksen for 45 minutes last week

45 minutes? Yikes. Poor fella.

[–] Evotech 53 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

"Spoke at" more likely too

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just FYI. Mette Frederiksen is a woman. And a much more competent leader than Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 5 days ago

The man is utterly deranged. During his last term, one of the few things I was grateful for was that he didn’t start a new war. Apparently, he’s planning to make up for that.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I love that the map in the article only labels a few locations, but one of them is the Gulf of Mexico.

Nice subtle dig at the man-baby.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I can't wait for the US to enter the "find out" phase. It will take some time, sure, but heh, hubris always invites nemesis.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah... Some country's "find out" phase in history occurred only after unspeakable horrors were committed and the country was crushed jnto submission by an international coalition. So... Idk

[–] jrs100000 33 points 5 days ago

Yea I dont think anyone is going to enjoy the "find out" phase of this one. Maybe Putin, if he lives that long.

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[–] MonsterMonster 49 points 5 days ago

Ladies and gentlemen, the United States of America has gone rogue.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Please post non paywall links

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Trump ginning up beef with Greenland and Panama, for "security" and "defense" is all simply to grant geopolitical cover to Putin for Russia's invasion and ultimate annexation of Ukraine. "Watch me do the same thing as Russia for the same reasons" gives the world a second Imperialist foil, regardless of Trump's actual intent.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket 68 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Summary:

In a recent 45-minute phone call, U.S. President Donald Trump reiterated his demand for the United States to gain control over Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory. Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen firmly responded that Greenland is not for sale. According to European officials, the conversation was aggressive, with Trump threatening punitive tariffs against Denmark if it refused to relinquish control of Greenland. Frederiksen proposed enhanced cooperation on military bases and mineral exploitation in Greenland, but Trump dismissed these offers, insisting on full U.S. control. This development has heightened concerns in Europe about strained transatlantic relations, especially following Trump’s recent threats of heavy tariffs on the EU and demands for increased defense spending from NATO allies.

[–] OwlPaste 47 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Why is Denmark even offering anything at all

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago

Denmark is normally otherwise an ally of the US.

However, this call has spooked the Danes. There will 100% be escalations from the Danes to protect themselves as a result.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Why is Denmark even offering anything at all

As others have pointed out, the US play here is likely to be stopping payments for the current US military based in Greenland but not leaving, testing its limits (operating outside of the designated areas), and generally just begging for a response. At this point the Danish (and the EU generally) will have to choose - if they do nothing then it'll encourage more of this BS in Greenland and elsewhere. If they respond with any force it'll be what Trump wants. He'll use it as pretense for...whatever he wants to do.

This behaviour will make it far less likely that all of the US international partners will renew military base leases or sign new ones, and long term it will diminish American military power globally, but nobody in MAGA let alone Trump are really thinking beyond the immediate anyways.

So the answer your question, the Danes are trying to avoid all of that BS.

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[–] Elkot 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't speak crazy, can someone explain Trumps issue with Greenland to me, thanks

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Territorialism. He thinks he can just demand Denmark to sell Greenland to him, but neither Denmark nor Greenland are having any of it. Big Baby didn't think he'd get pushback and does what he does best: get pissed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Imo, Greenland has fossil fuel reserves they're not tapping in order to protect the environment. USA wants the natural resources, but Greenland not being brown people or "the wrong kind of white people", Greenland a member of NATO, invading Greenland outright risks ww3 without being able to blame anyone other than the USA. I could be wrong, though, I'm not a geopolitics wonk.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Angry piss baby throws tantrum when told her can't have new toy

FTFY

[–] ArchmageAzor 46 points 5 days ago (11 children)

The US will be spending the next several decades building their reputation back up.

[–] brucethemoose 92 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

Uh… I think it’s never coming back.

We had our chance to course correct, and didn't. And I suspect dems are either going to learn nothing and flop the next election, literally get suppressed by Trump, or get their own version of a "liberal Trump."

Our social media is only going to get more toxic now, and it’s already dominating public discourse.

I dunno where you live, friend, but do not assume the US is digging its way out of this hole :(

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Were you making the assumption that the US had a good reputation before that ?

Half of the world hated it outright and the other half was mostly just playing along because of its economic or military power and propensity to behave like a bully.

The only difference is that Trump is too stupid to do it quietly.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

The US is never more than 4 years away from electing a lunatic. Soft power is not really a possibility anymore.

[–] xenomor 48 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

No way that is ever happening. We are a dying empire, rotting from the inside out. Because of a massive amount of inertia, the decline is really only starting to become obvious widely, but we are well into the phase where the ruling class has given up and is just looting the carcass before it hits the ground. They have succeeded in distracting the general public from the dire circumstances for a long time, but things are so far gone at this point, that won’t really be necessary much longer. As we proceed to give up on democracy, the efficacy of political influence withers away. The real danger for the world is that we have a massive military infrastructure ready to lash out in increasingly desperate spasms as the organism desperately tries to prolong agency. It is past time for the world community to organize against the threat the US poses to them. This is just getting started.

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