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How do language flags work in Lemmy? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/asklemmy

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I recently had an issue with some comments not being visible to another user as it was flagged in another language his account doesn't show.

I am aware of the filtering settings regarding comments displayed. But I cannot find any default settings how comments are flagged in a language or none at all.

Can someone help me how to set it up that comments I write are kept in "undetermined"? I use Lemmy in browser and through the Voyager app.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can someone help me how to set it up that comments I write are kept in "undetermined"?

You do not want this. The language flags exist for a reason, and provided the community you are posting/commenting in is configured correctly, things should work right on their own.

This is because "default" is determined by the languages set for the community you are posting/commenting in, not your account. (Though some clients have had trouble respecting this).

If "undetermined" was your default, but that weren't enabled for the community, the comment/post wouldn't go through. Clients that don't respect this run into errors when users try to post or comment. Hence, unless you manually set the language of your post/comment, what it ends up as depends on where you are posting/commenting.

It's not something you can configure as a user (unless you mod a community).

It's worth noting that you can select multiple languages in your account settings, to make sure you'll see any and all relevant content.

Additonally, if you post everything with "undetermined" that still means that people who don't have that "language" enabled, can't see your content. It's not a "everyone will see this" setting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is because “default” is determined by the languages set for the community you are posting/commenting in, not your account.

That was the missing link, thank you. Yeah I've had problems with comments that were set the completely wrong language considering the community, which meant they didn't show up for the users there. In that regard it'd be better not to flag it than get flagged wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

There is no "unflagged". "Undetermined" works exactly as if it was just another language, to the point that if a community doesn't have it allowed, you cannot make posts or comments that are "undetermined".

Which they shouldn't, because then content might not get correctly tagged. Because, again, "undetermined" is just another language and can prevent people from seeing content in the same way.

When you don't select a language when posting or commenting, the lemmy server picks for you, based on how the community is set. When configured correctly, your posts will automatically get tagged with the right language.

If not, then the community mods have not set things up correctly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

@[email protected] I know you did some tests with Mandarin as a language, but I can't see them. I set up my languages to only Undetermined and English though, so that does indeed work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Offtopic but:

So I posted another comment with the language flag set as Chinese. Can y'all see that? Just want to test some thing...

[–] ultrahamster64 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I can see that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you happen to have every language selected? Because if you have the "Chinese" de-selected in settings, and you see that, then the language flags is broken.

[–] ultrahamster64 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have quite the opposite: I have every language de-selected, so I can see all of them without any filtering occurring

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh?

If you de-select a language, how do you see it? 🤔

I have no idea how Lemmy works 🤷‍♂️

[–] ultrahamster64 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, If you de-select one language (while have others selected) you're not going to see it.

But! If you de-select all of them it counts as "No preference" and allows you to see all posts with all languages.

It kinda is counterintuitive, but it works :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Im on mbin and im not sure it does anything. blocking domains does not work so I have to block communities I can't read to clear them out. I thought the language option was supposed to do that. I have been chalking it up to the domain/communities not configuring a language or something but im leaning more now toward it just don't work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

语言 "Flag" 测试...

Language Flag Test...

This comment should be flagged as "Chinese". You shouldn't be able to read this comment unless you have Chinese selected in settings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I see it and I definately have mine set to english but im on mbin.

[–] surewhynotlem 1 points 3 weeks ago

I see both. Language is set to English. But I can't see all my settings from my app, so it might be something else I have/haven't set.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I see it. I think I maybe don’t have anything set? I’m always seeing random shit in "All."