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It’s Not Just Wayfair: Why Does ALL Of Your Furniture Fall Apart?

Interesting commentary on what happened to the furniture industry in the United States.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it was replaced by cheap garbage.

Saved you a click. The video was pretty informative though.

[–] DarkFuture 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everything is cheap garbage in the U.S. Except our healthcare, which is expensive, but also cheap garbage.

[–] nickhammes 14 points 1 week ago

Cheap garbage is cheap garbage, no matter the price they expect you to pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Furniture is a good reason to check thrift stores. They usually have older, well-made shit that costs less than the brand new garbage that's poorly made.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Where I live I can pick up amazing stuff for free from recycling stations all over the city. Incredible old items keep popping up there more or less every day as people get rid of their old solid wood furniture in order to replace it with something more fashionable from IKEA.

[–] brygphilomena 12 points 1 week ago

Habitat for Humanity restores are gold. Most of my furniture is from there. They have pretty high standards for the stuff they take.

[–] DarkFuture 5 points 1 week ago

Almost all my furniture is from thrift stores. It's all old stuff that is made better and looks better.

[–] hOrni 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same reason everything sucks these days. Capitalism.

[–] moontorchy 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As a person who grew up in a socialist country, I say be careful what you wish for.

[–] hOrni 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You have to be more precise than that.

[–] moontorchy 2 points 1 week ago

Furniture was a "luxury" item. We had very a few and ugly options, produced by socialist / plan economy manufacturing industry. Quality wise these were meh... Even then one needed to jump through the hoops to buy the ugly and not very affordable furniture. Rumours about new batch coming to a local store and you have a long queue waiting for hours, sometimes days. Anything better imported from abroad, was super difficult to get hold of. Unless you're a member of the socialist gov and have connections.

[–] NineMileTower 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good ANYTHING is hard to come by these days. It's all fucking garbage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I actually have a mini workshop for making little shit. I made matching desks for my son and me 7 years ago. Even though my son beat the crap out of his and mine lost a load support, they are still standing better than any IKEA desk I have seen.

[–] NineMileTower 5 points 1 week ago

I made a black pipe and 2 x 6 coffee table that could withstand a nuclear blast for around $100.

[–] BigPotato 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had an IKEA desk for three years before some movers damaged it in a cross country move. When they dropped it off the left hand side had snapped and they were like "that was like that when we picked it up."

So, I went out and got a new IKEA desk with the money from that and I've had that desk for eight or nine years now. It's been moved between houses four times and has not had an issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I was more referring to the abuse they have taken. I'm quite comfortable standing on them if needed.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you want something GOOD you can still find it for a price.

if you want something NOW it's going to be cheap mdf flat pack garbage.

[–] rigatti 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where do I find it though?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Good and relatively mass produced? Good start searching for terms like "solid wood dresser". You still have to do some vetting but it cuts down on the absolute junk.

Good and cheap? Check your local Goodwill and Habitat for Humanity ReStore regularly - their stock is highly variable, but they will have some of the best items for the best price out there.

Money is no object? Make friends with the folks at your local hardwood store and pry them for recommendations for local woodworkers, and attend local craft fairs.

[–] wjrii 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A little rough around the details (pine is not a hardwood, and MDF and chipboard are just as heavy as wood), but yeah, generally this is spot on.

I will say that just at a design level, a single-pillar end table is never going to handle the sledgehammer test very well compared to a four-legged design, but once you're through the initial clickbait moment, that old Ethan Allen piece is very much better made.

[–] Evotech 19 points 1 week ago

It's not hard to find, it's just expensive.

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The United States still has a furniture industry?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

There are still workshops putting out high quality pieces for custom orders.

South Carolina, Pennsylvania and Ohio are the centers of US furniture making.

[–] dogslayeggs 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] m4m4m4m4 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's odd because from what I can gather from things like youtube it seems like woodworking is huge there (and they say wood is cheap there too), so I'd imagine there should be a considerable amount of people doing furniture.

Contrasting to the situation here where people doing hand-maded furniture is lowering their prices so much trying to keep up with the ikea-type of shit (and of course doing things with superior quality).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Labor is still expensive.

Lots of labor needed if it’s not mass produced on an assembly line.

[–] QuarterSwede 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My FiL made my dining room table. It’s ~600lbs and was $2K in material alone, that didn’t include any labor he didn’t charge us. It’s just about indestructible but it certainly would’ve been $4k-$5k if he was selling it. Would you buy that? I thought not. I certainly wouldn’t have.

[–] the_tab_key 6 points 1 week ago

I made my sons' crib. Solid cherry, nothing crazy fancy but I like it. I wouldn't make another to sell unless I get at least $5k for it. I doubt anyone would buy it for much more than $1k. Just not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Sounds like your FIL made my dining table 😄

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah. Only thing is, the "affordable" American made stuff largely consists of crap quality. I made the mistake of insisting on American made stuff when I also didn't have the budget for premium furniture. I ended up with crappy seating that started breaking in less than a year. The stitching started coming apart in the second year. And by the third year the "genuine" leather was separating and flaking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tables are the only thing cheap out here, I just buy the top and feet separately. That way I get decent quality.