Can we cancel YouTube shorts now?
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I’m convinced that exposure to these videos actually causes ADHD
There is evidence that it shortens attention spans. Can't cause ADHD, however, because one of the diagnostic criteria is that it's lifelong (must have symptoms present before age 12) and it's something inherent to who you are.
Also, entirely a special interest rant here, but ADD is no longer the term. ADHD is the term for the disorder and those who were diagnosed with ADD before now are considered ADHD Inattentive Type. Reason for the change is we don't typically differentiate diagnoses based on symptom presentation. You don't get the flu or the chilly flu, you just get the flu with chills as a symptom.
Can’t cause ADHD, however, because one of the diagnostic criteria is that it’s lifelong (must have symptoms present before age 12) and it’s something inherent to who you are.
It can probably worsen symptoms for people with ADHD tho, which would also be really bad.
I meant to say ADHD, but the dictation didn’t get the H in there.
Good info though
Too late, there are shorts on every other platform now already.
According to a friend who moderates tiktok here in the US she swears that their jobs are secure. So is bytedance going block off US or not?
Getting this court to agree 9-0 on a politically sensitive case is pretty fuckin' impressive. You want to regulate commerce with a foreign-owned entity for professed national security reasons, then you pass a law in Congress. That's the way the US government is actually meant to function, and it's sort of facepalmingly hilarious that they did something so stupid so well. If no one wants the law anymore, then it should be fairly simple to extend the deadline or repeal the law, riiiight? You own this mess now, Republicans. You own all the messes.
I'm honestly shocked the SC took up the case. Congress clearly has the authority to regulate businesses doing interstate commerce (like tiktok). I think the law is dumb china hawkery, but I also think there's nothing unconstitutional about it. Congress could shutdown nearly any tech business they like for whatever reason they like.
Yeah, if not for all the people raising hell, I think this is normally one where they just agree to silently let the lower court ruling stand.
As for the law, it's stupid. I am willing to consider that there may be some concerns that are unique to a Chinese-owned social media app becoming so popular in the US, but we were nowhere near the tipping point where we needed specific TikTok legislation, and even if it were warranted then something much more narrowly tailored could have worked. It was a boomer kneejerk to come down so hard, and especially to do so without considering the potential for backlash among voters that both parties want to court. It also isn't a good look that this all goes down while the mask is coming off of our homegrown social media, and it's becoming more blatantly obvious that their interests are not particularly aligned with an average American's either.
It's not even a national security issue... If it was the government would actually dig into the app and see if there was anything malicious in there. It's a profit thing. They're all mad that American companies aren't getting a cut.
What national security issue is there with China having data about our location and not the same issue with American companies that poorly secure that data if at all and willingly sell it to anyone, probably even other Chinese companies?
It's always about greed.
But they paid Trump, so this law will not be enforced.
Zuck will convince him to keep the ban in place, as he benefits the most. There's a reason Zuck has kissed the ring.
As long as this country is going down the tubes, we should at least make some good TV out of it. Trump should hold a live fundraising event where "Pro-Tiktok Gratuity" and "Anti-Tiktok Gratuity" NFTs are marketed in real time. We can show the needle going back and forth, just like the NY Times does for elections. Whichever side wins gets to decide what happens to TikTok in the US. All gratuities (win or lose) go directly into the President's own tip jar.
Direct democracy in action! One Dollar, One Vote, just like the Founders intended.
Instagram is about to get much more popular.
How can he argue for Trump to attack EU regulation if he supports the regulation of Tiktok out of the US?
Still gonna be super awkward since the ByteDance CEO is going to be at the inauguration.
170 million users in the United States.
Tankies: But it's just a lil Chinese app, why the US single out TiKTok‽
That's why. That's an incredible amount of influence right there.
While I could not give less of a shit about TikTok except as a possible personal source of revenue for people who want to hire me to make videos for them, I'm a hell of a lot more worried about the influence of Facebook, Instagram and Twitter now that you're allowed to do things like call queer people mentally ill pedophiles and immigrants are dirty criminals.
And this is why. Facebook is allowing exactly the same thing that they allowed to foment genocide in Myanmar: https://www.404media.co/meta-is-laying-the-narrative-groundwork-for-trumps-mass-deportations-2/
You think Elon and Zuck are better?
Them being bad isn't mutually exclusive.
It is mutually exclusive when Elon owns Trump and Zuck is bending over as far as possible for him.
That's irrelevant to the fact that half the population is using a propaganda machine controlled by a foreign enemy's government. If Russia had a social media platform, banning it would be appropriate too.
I also think that Meta and Twitter should be banned, but that's a different conversation.
I also think that Meta and Twitter should be banned, but that’s a different conversation.
Why is it a different conversation, though? I'd argue that Twitter is no less controlled by Russia than TikTok is controlled by China.
Because they're not directly owned by a foreign enemy.
Douyin is a public company, whereas X is not.
Twitter still falls under US law, TikTok doesn't and there's no way to make it, that's the problem.
China is actively helping Russia in Ukraine, it is using backdoors in their technology to hack our infrastructure, was caught with spying, actively prepares to invade Taiwan which of happens will set up our technology backwards as we won't be able to produce latest chips, and you're questioning why US is blocking an app that already has direct influence over 17 million Americans?
China isn't our friend, it doesn't do what a friendly nation would normally do.
Both sides can be bad, with TikTok the problem is that it is controlled by an adversary, a nation that doesn't have good relationship with the US and wants it to collapse.
Frankly if I had power I would go after Twitter and Meta as well.
I mean the owners of meta and Twitter also want the current version of America to collapse too. They're as much of a threat in that respect as any foreign country is.
I'm 100000% of the mind that this is purely a profit thing. Tictok got too big and no Americans are getting enough of a cut of that so they want to take it. Same with BYD. It's a threat to American electric car makers so they need to "do away" with it.
the problem is that it is controlled by an adversary
As opposed to billionaires working with the trump admin...
If you don't think this is adversarial government, I won't try to convince you, it'll keep getting more and more obvious
You won't find me supporting Twitter or Meta, and I won't deny that their owners do seem to be influenced by foreign governments (directly or indirectly), but TikTok is clearly information Domain Warfare and it would be hell of a stupid to continue allowing it if they are still controlled by Chinese government. This is why that sale is for.
https://youtu.be/9JQLaf4QaOs?t=6m51s
If TikTok wasn't a weapon, wouldn't it make more sense to sell it and get something than not selling it and have nothing?
The current behavior only makes sense if the real value was being China's propaganda piece. A normal business would just go after money.
You think the French nobility fund d US revolutionaries because they were upset about taxes?
If a country is doing something in another country, it's for selfish reasons 99% of the time.
If China wants to allow a place for people to complain about trump not controlled by a billionaire in Trump's side...
What they get out of it isn't the primary concern. It's helping the American people even if only done to fuck with Trump's administration
It's not an either/or thing, both can be bad, both should be banned or at least heavily regulated. Right now we got one banned so far so I'll take it
The single one they banned was the only one that leaned more to the left in terms of content overall. (The left vs. right dichotomy remains a relevant descriptor as long as major parties define themselves in this way.) Even people who want all social media banned should see a problem in the lopsidedness of this outcome and the problem it poses for democracy.
It did lean to the left...until they "tweaked" the algorithm to push more right-wing content
Yeah they did do what they could to appease their critics/advertisers (a little over a year ago I think?) but the user base was ignoring it and still favouring leftist content even after the algorithm tweak you mention, if only slightly. In the Pew-Knight study from last summer, it was also only second to Twitter among users who use the site to get news on political issues. Keeping in mind that everyone whose job is to do or talk about politics is on Twitter and only some of them are on the other platforms, I think that means a lot.
They do whatever works for Chinese interests.
TikTok isn't being banned, it was asked to be majority owned by an American company so it can't be influenced by China.
A normal business would prefer to get some money than no money.
The fact that they refuse to do it is clear that its value only exists if it is controlled by Chinese government.
or at least heavily regulated
That's the core reason for requirement to sell it. Right now there's no way to regulate it. It is an app that influences 17 million Americans controlled by a country that right now regularly conducted cyber attacks on our infrastructure. What could go wrong?
US just trying to stop China from getting a culture victory in this game of Civ.
Good thing we have Truth Social