No idea what that bottom driver is doing, but it indeed does not spark joy
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2025
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This one sparks joy.
This one (ETA: my '97 Prelude) sparks so much joy.
The best looking dials on a dashboard I have ever seen is the dashboard from the Saab 9000 CSE.
This isn't exacty what I remember, but close enough:
I love the green and orange colors, the car diagram, the turbo, temp and fuel dials are just great.
Granted I was a kid when we had that car, but the colors were beautiful
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I had a 97 prelude sh 5 speed. Great Lil car and a lot of fun to drive. But then I got my hands on an 02 s2000. Funnest car to drive I've ever owned.
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That looks just like my Sunfire's dash, other than mph being more prominent than km/h and it redlining over 7k rpm.
Is that an S2000?
I had an s2000. My redline was about 9000 rpm and the gauge cluster was lit up orange, but lit up in such a way that it didn't really look like it was back-lit. It was an amazing gauge cluster.
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Man, I miss my Sunfire so much it hurts my heart
Nope. 5th gen Honda Prelude.
There reason this one and the analogue dials spark joy is because there's something tangible happening in front of us. Either needles are moving or lights are being lit.
The modern iPad display just feels... disconnected, I guess
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Oh wow, what car is that!?
C4 Corvette!
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Touch screens have no business in dashboards. I don't care how sleek it looks to replace all the physical buttons. You have to look at a touch screen to use it. That alone makes them entirely unfit for the purpose. Physical buttons that can be identified by touch and provide tactile feedback are the only interfaces that make any fucking sense at all.
This fees like something so obvious that I cannot understand how we got here.
You touch the gauges behind your steering wheel?
How else should a blind man know how fast he is travelling?
Got a hearty chuckle out of me.
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E: whoops wrong comment
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I am partial to the windshield projection style. It is truly fantastic for keeping your eyes on the road while seeing your speed
The two-tiered cluster of my Civic really grew on me. The speedometer is up really high so it's almost always in your line of sight.
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I'm dying for good windshield HUDs
Volkswagen has a pretty awesome one but it costs like 10k more for that level of trim.
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Don't they sell add-on projector Huds which snake a wire down to OBD-ii port?
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I get having a digital cluster, because you can display way more information than using analog gauges.
Put it in front of the driver.
Also, make the text bigger.
So many displays have tiny, hard to read text that could easily be twice as tall and wide without even impacting the blank space that separates them.
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I guess I'm in the minority: I prefer to see my speed as a number instead of a dial.
Yes, it does need to be in front of the driver.
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108 in a 30. Someone speeding that much has no time for a ticket.
Marques Brownlee?
Someone speeding that much won't be having much time left in general.
I don't understand how anyone can buy a Tesla. The lack of a dashboard + the only interface being a tablet alone are a deal breaker for me.
You're being sold a feature that is really just massive cost cuttings playing impostor as a luxury feature at a premium with 100x worse usability.
If dial gauges weren't what you chuckleheads grew up with (I'm 38 so I understand the nostalgia) you'd realize they aren't really all that well designed. There's no reason they go as high as they do, especially when they were "capped" at 85, and they display a terrible amount of information for the amount of space they take up.
I dislike many digital dashboards, not because they don't interface well or they don't look good, but because I can't customize them to my own liking. I want my average speed, instantaneous speed, average miles per gallon, instantaneous miles per gallon, range, engine temperature, music track, outside temperature, inside temperature, tire pressure, time, vehicle orientation, all at once. They're normally all available, but hidden in different menus and screens. Put it all out there, I'll learn where to look for the info I want. And let people who desire less info have the ability to set up their dashboard for that as well.
A dial gauge can impart certain information that other ways cannot. I can notice a sudden change in movement without looking directly down, or see certain patterns of movement that simple numbers won't. An old example of the loss of that was found in some classic luxury cars (my grandmother had a Cadillac that I noticed it in). The speedometer wasn't a dial, it was an analog bar that would go right to left as your speed increased. It was very hard to judge change of speed by this, much like it's hard to see from a few digital numbers that rapidly change. I've also noticed that even digital dial gauges can suffer from this if their refresh isn't fast enough to simulate an analog accurately.
Doesn't mean you can't get used to a display or find other ways to get the same input, but dials aren't just old nostalgia, they do have advantages. I would bet for some measurements an analog multimeter is preferred over a digital, and vise versa.
Dials and digital displays are like clocks, the position can relay a lot of additional contextual information that doesn't come from a simple number.
Can you give examples?
Both clock and auto?
Because other than time, I'm having a hard time seeing what else a clock is telling you by being analogue.
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The thing about a digital display is that you can have things display however you want. You want numbers? Fine. You want gauges? No problem. You want sliding bars and thermometer looking things? You got it. You want a time chart of values over time? Can do. You want an of the above at once? Got it.
In theory, anyways
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Car manufacturers could've used the example of an aircraft. Their primary flight display shows speed nicely with current speed, good indication of changes in speed, settings like cruise control and max speed all in one clean display. I'd prefer that one. But no, it's not even an option of course.
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Speak for yourself. I'd love an easy to read screen.
