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After shutting down several popular emulators, Nintendo admits emulation is legal
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$600 <-> prolly three fiddy
Uh, base Steamdeck is $399.
Not sure why this is getting down votes. Price is the key factor most parents look at, and most people who aren't into technology probably don't know what the steam deck is or know what "gaming on Linux" means. That is what is stopping a good friend of mine. Price is a huge factor, but the intimidation from lack of knowledge is just as big
Because it's a false narrative, entry level steamdeck can be had for $399.
Not sure why this is getting down votes
Because Lemmings are completely disconnected from the real world.
If it wasn't for the fact that a lot of people here have a good sized Steam library, I doubt they'd have a Steam Deck either.
It's more a "bonus way to play about half your PC games on the toilet" than it is a primary gaming platform.
So the lawyer says that Nintendo, despite knowing that the emulators themselves are legal, has unlawfully caused take downs and reputational damage. Sounds kind of illegal
There's nothing new in this article. And I don't think Nintendo ever said that emulation is illegal, just emulating their games is, which technically is true to some part at least in the United States, where sometimes you need to circumvent some security measures to get games emulated which is a forbidden (this is mentioned in the article).
A very strong case could be made that dumping your keys and your games is not bypassing encryption.
Get a load of the nerd reading the articles and making informed opinions. Just join the rest of us in mindless circle jerking.
emulation is only legal if you pay Nintendo to steal open-source code for their emulator as a service subscription
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Yea, if I recall correctly, the Yuzu team was sharing roms of latest Nintendo releases internally and Nintendo was able to prove it. At least Jeff Gerstman podcast suggested something to that accord when reporting on it.
Yeah and the Yuzu people had made something like 4 million bucks on the project too. When you start making serious cash off of tools for piracy (and when we're talking about a current-gen console that's essentially what it is, not a tool for preservation like older emulators) then you should expect some heat to come your way.
Nintendo has always been a bit on the bastardly side of things when it comes to fan projects but I can't say that I blame them for going after Yuzu when they felt like they had a winnable case.
Nintendo 5 years from now: "After suing multiple fan projects and intimidating them to cease projects, Nintendo admits that they were just fan projects"
This is the company by the way that's behind on the times of technology. Like, how long did it take them to adopt broadband technology on their consoles? The Wii?
Didn't the GameCube have a broadband adapter you could buy. Swear I had one to play PSO
I don't think people remember, but there was a time when no twitch streamer or youtuber would play Nintendo games because they fucking take down their streams for copyright infringement.
That's not entirely true, you could keep the videos up if all the ad revenue went to Nintendo. In other words, if you paid them so you could promote their game.
I owned Mario Kart 8 for Wii U and it had a feature to record gameplay and post it to YouTube.
I post a clip once and they fucking claimed ad revenue on it.
What a brilliant racket. Have people do all the work of getting a channel going, then claim the money for yourself.
Sue them back, for a feature built in!
They killed Splatoon's grassroots Esport community thanks to them making a quick buck with splatoon 3, that promised a bunch of network functionality improvements that never materialized.
So now, a game that used to have multiple small but growing international tournaments now has nothing. Hell, they used to have tournaments on the main stage at PAX East.
They've been shutting down Smash Bros tournaments as well.
How they treated professional Melee and especially Project M was the moment I realized Nintendo was just another out-of-touch company. So many indie devs would kill for fans that passionate, let alone a modding scene that robust. Nintendo threw it all away.
Edit: and that ignores the graveyard of fan games Nintendo has killed. AM2R, Pokémon Uranium...
Yeah this was my first moment also and largely why I will never pay for NSO+. How they treat the esport community is crazy.
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Folks pointing out GCN/Wii internet abilities are missing that the experience was awful. Like sure, the guts of broadband were there, but actually playing a game with friends online was way more trouble than it was worth.
So to your point, real online gaming was indeed way behind other consoles (IMHO).
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You don't say, Nintendo. Pretty sure they're also using open source emulators, from the developers they really hate, to run their older titles.
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Nintendo lost my business long ago nothing they make or say will get me to buy another Nintendo product
The top IP lawyer at Nintendo agreed that emulators are technically legal at a panel for intellectual property rights.
They run afoul of the law when they bypass encryption, recreate copyrighted programs, or point users to pirated material.
Yes, this wasn't an admission because it's a well-known fact that is not inconsistent with Nintendo's earlier actions. The headline is deceptive and people don't read the article. The article itself contains no new information and it is only worth reading for someone who has been deceived by the headline and needs to be set straight by the same people who wrote the deceptive headline. It's click bait that shouldn't exist.
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Yeah, that's why I've been exclusively pirating and emulating your switch games, and will continue to do so
Nintendo never gets my money again, and it's been a better experience so far doing so
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