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[–] IzzyScissor 3 points 16 hours ago

"Don't worry, you can sell it back to the bookstore!"

"Oh, except the professor just released a new page 12, so your copy is out of date. The bookstore only offers $5 back for those."

Happened multiple times.

[–] captainlezbian 3 points 17 hours ago

Then randomly 10 years later when it comes up in your career

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't use LibGen.is - it undermines the publishing industry by distributing copyrighted content without permission. It has many text books available for free. This reduces publishers' ability to pay authors, fund peer review, and invest in quality academic resources. Support legal access options instead.

/s

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia's entry on Z-Lib has its Tor address on it as well, so you can avoid that link too. Massive repository of textbooks and indeed books of any kind, all just available for free download. Makes me sick.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately those bastards have a more accessible address on the open web that anyone could reasonably use, with or without a VPN to hide their traffic from their ISP. Apparently it's also listed by Wikipedia. RAPSCALLIONS!

[–] moseschrute 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Professor (who also wrote the textbook): btw you’re using the 30th edition, but were actually on the 31st edition

Me: what’s the difference?

Professor: page 12 is totally different

[–] BleatingZombie 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Somehow a different professor who also wrote their book: btw anybody who needs the book can email me and I'll print out all 500 pages for you


Unrelated: I had to buy a book for a class that was "edited" by the professor. What does that mean? It's literally just sections of other books curated by him. We didn't even use it

[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

I'm a college professor. I'm very aware of textbook prices. Most students don't read the textbook anyway, even if its something you want them to read everyday.

For intro classes, I use openstax, which are available free online. For upper-level classes, I try to pick non major publishers, ie not pearson or cengage, with much more reasonably priced books.

My version of this meme would be the prof begging the students to actually read the book he/she picked out that is free or cheap so that they are prepared for class and the students rolling their eyes and instead just going to chatgpt or chegg...

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I went to community college out of high school and dropped out after a year. I went back when I was 35, got my bachelor's in 2 years, and was the best student in my major and got an award. All I did differently was read the books...

[–] The_v 36 points 2 days ago

You also had the work/life experience by then to be better able to filter out pertinent information from the material.

Most college textbooks are written in an overly complex manner and require some skill to extract and process the information from them.

So right out of highschool you could have read the textbooks but gotten very little out of them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some of that speaks to your maturity and drive too tho. You clearly had a desire to go back, a will to learn, and hopefully a purpose to use that degree you were earning.

At 18 years old, so many people just go to college because its the next step or their parents told them they were. They dont have the passion, maturity, or vision of how their life can be different with a degree

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In Europe we just have scripts for each lecture. Professors may liberally take and modify content from books so you might sometimes wanna check out their sources in a library but you do not need books.

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[–] taiyang 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a professor who uses OER materials too; I might have bit off more than I can chew this semester since a new class of mine lacks a free textbook and I said, to hell with it, and am curating weekly readings from stuff I can get off EBSCO our campus pays for. So far it's solid but I didn't have time to prep it all in advance so it'll be a wild ride every weekend!

I think I figured out a sneaky solution though; I made an assignment to had students find and report on an article for 5 to 10 minutes of class. They get real practice for grad school and I get crowdsourced sources. Win win!

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I always pirated PDFs of my textbooks, but in the few cases where I couldn't find anything online (typically when the book is niche and very new), I would always wait until I knew that I actually needed the book, because it was frustrating how often this meme came true.

I had this one professor I was really grateful for though. He was a big open-source guy, apparently used to contribute to freebsd and postgres, and he went out of his way to find open-source textbooks for all of his classes.

[–] setsneedtofeed 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know how long ago that was, but the hustle has long ago counter measured pirating or second handing the books by bundling the new books with a 1 time use code to make a profile into the online part of the course where you have to take tests. You could just buy the code on its own when I was going through this, but the code was like 80% the cost of a code and book.

They also do the thing where questions in the book will be scrambled from edition to edition, so using an older copy of a math book for example won't track because they've arbitrarily changed it just enough.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I had this one professor I was really grateful for though. He was a big open-source guy

I had the bizzaro version of this guy in college once. He sold his own 150$ "textbook" that you had to purchase from a copy shop next to campus. It was just a bunch of sections of other text books that were clearly copied and put together in a tabbed paper folder by the little printing shop.

Was also the same guy that wouldn't accept assignments unless you turned them in a specific blue folder, which you could conveniently buy from the same copy shop for 5$ a piece.

Still kinda pissed about it like 15 years later, but at least now I can kinda appreciate the hustle that dude had going.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

One of my CS professors was a top contributor to Wikipedia articles on graph algorithms and just told us to read those in lieu of a textbook

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (5 children)

One year we had to buy a "clicker" to give digital answers to multiple choice questions live in class. We only used them a handful of times and then found out we couldn't resell them after the semester because it was coded to a specific student and couldn't be changed or something.

I at least appreciated the professor apologizing to us when we reported it to him and promising to not do it to another class when he found out you can't resell them, but still... I may as well have just thrown $50 in the trash and gotten the same result.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just create surveys and put a QR code in my slides. They answer the question on their phone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Oops didn't mean to! Sowwy I won't do it again. (Does it again)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

They promised to teach you how the world works didn't they? Enjoy your undischargable debt indentured servant!

[–] Lemming6969 3 points 1 day ago

As an alternative hypothesis, the vast majority that claim this have spent almost no time actually studying a book and have no actual nuanced questions about the material for the professor and are waiting for the professor to spoon feed them the material... 99% of the time from my experience.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is one busty gentleman.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That's what I thought!!

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Cheers to one physics professor in university that taught us by his own textbook, but we actually borrowed all the copies we needed from the university library and it was actually relevant the entire course, including exam preparation

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

We had a prof who said he only used to book for the problems and they changed their order each edition. He would give us the previous years question numbers so we could buy the book used.

My friends and I ended up splitting a single copy of the book and texting each other the homework questions each week.

I had another prof who used an open source book and only charged us the price to print it. You could access it for free in PDF online, or even the source to generate the book in additional formats.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I remember one class where we literally never cracked open the book. But it was still mandatory to purchase because it had a code to access the online learning tool we had to use for the class.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My anthropology class had us buy four textbooks all written by the professor.

None of them was used at all during class.

I didn’t buy them, or rent them, or spend any money on them. And then I learned to look at the book author while signing up for classes, since the book(s) is/are usually listed.

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[–] pennomi 15 points 2 days ago

And it will never be illegal to do that because young people aren’t practically able to be politicians.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is clearly a very old comic and seriously out of date.

The $400 textbook is a $400 digital textbook now. He needs to have a notebook in front of him so he can read that one paragraph on page 12.

Bandwidth costs for PDF downloads ain't cheap!

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen 3 points 1 day ago

It's not even a download anymore. It's a website with the text that runs like dog shit. Oh, and you're only allowed to read the text for 3 months.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the first things I learned was to never buy books before the first class.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline 8 points 1 day ago

I had a professor get upset no one had the book on day 1. In her defense, she heavily used the book.

She couldn't understand that professors would make students a buy a book and never use it.

In another class a student had asked about the book a few days in, the professor's response was "we have a book?" He inherited the class last minute and didn't have time to look through all the materials.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of my professors, instead of a textbook, created his own wiki-style online resource for the class. Completely free, frequently edited with improvements

One of the best classes I've ever taken

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[–] JcbAzPx 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some professors do the best they are allowed to mitigate the cost of books. Then there was the guy that required his own book for the class and charged tens of thousands of dollars for it.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh and the scratch off code inside the book for the online part of the course which is 30 % of your grade.... So you need to buy the book because the professors sold out on actual education and are getting a cut of the profit from the publishers.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My favorite was my cultural geography class (amazing class btw) where the prof told us not to buy the book and handed out 3 ring binders to everyone with the entire book printed out in them😂

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