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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

"Plans" is way different from "set to."

I have no idea what the course of AI development will be over the next 5 years. It's not guaranteed that there won't be a ChatGPT-style breakthrough that leads to AGI that can do a lot of jobs. But "plans" is different from "set to," and this is clickbait.

[–] Tedesche 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The actual headline: “AI Set to Replace Workers Across 41% of Companies in the Next Five Years”

That’s very different from the OP’s headline (41% of jobs).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Are self checkout lanes working yet?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So long as after the person does self checkout you have someone manually confirm they scanned all the items.

I applaud the massive theft from Walmart people pissed off with having to pay and scan their own shit have been pulling off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

That doesn’t happen here. They do spot checks sometimes on big scan and go shops where they pick 5 or so random items to scan to confirm you’ve done it right but you only get selected like 10% of the time.

[–] randon31415 4 points 4 days ago

Manual confirmation of ALL checkouts is like manual audit of ALL tax filings. Neither happen, but the occasional audit of 1 out of 200 keeps people honest.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be trivial to avoid with an RFID? Check the RFID when the product comes in, keep it in a database until someone pays for it. If it leaves before it's paid for, alert security.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I work retail. On the clothing, the vast majority of the tags already are RFID, but for a different kind of automation - it's by SKU or a similar number, and it's already used for inventory counts and locating specific items for online orders. The other stuff isn't because a lot more of that is manufactured by sometime other than the store and would require Coca Cola and so many others to cooperate and someone has to eat the cost of doing it and a twelve pack of coke doesn't come with the issue of having to find a specific style and size of black thong located somewhere in a dozen boxes of underwear that includes five other extremely similar styles of black thong (true story btw, anyone know of less shit jobs hiring in the Twin Cities?).

Also, you would be astonished at the number of detached tags we find, if someone is shoplifting it's incredibly common for people to rip the tags off. Probably because at least one retailer already does something like that.

[–] officermike 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Vice's headline highly misrepresents the statistic in the body of the article. Body says 41% of employers are looking to use AI to replace [some?] jobs. Doesn't say all jobs under those employers. Even if 41% of employers wanted to replace all the jobs under them, that still doesn't mean 41% of all jobs are getting replaced.

Imagine a world in which there's only 100 companies. The largest 59 companies each employ one thousand people. The smallest 41 companies each employ one person. All of those bottom 41 companies replace all of their employees with AI. The world now has 59,000 employed people, and 41 unemployed individuals. 0.069% of people are then unemployed, not 41%.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

And of course employers will claim they're replacing workers in a survey, in order to send the message to their employees that they're replacable and shouldn't be too confident in salary negotiations.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

It'll be a while before AI can do general contracting though, my newly unemployed customers can't really afford to hire me either.

Also, 41% of employers planning to replace positions with AI doesn't exactly mean that 41% of jobs are going away.

[–] JeeBaiChow 9 points 4 days ago

Automation. Not ai. Ai in its current form is still crap.

[–] jordanlund 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They could have replaced me with a call center in India years ago, that didn't happen because the quality was too low.

AI could probably displace a lot of call centers in India and the Phillipines though.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel sorry for the people over there who will lose their jobs because of it, but considering I literally cannot understand them half the time I call them, AI would not be all that less frustrating. I hate AI, but outsourcing call centers to countries where people have accents so heavy you can't understand them even though they're speaking English (over low-quality connections to boot) is ridiculous.

[–] jordanlund 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lately I've been getting spam calls in Hindi. Not sure what that's about. When I ask if someone speaks English, they hang up on me.

[–] randon31415 6 points 4 days ago

SO many things could be automated. My guess is the vast majority of jobs exist not because someone has to do them, but because you can pay humans less then the cost to automate.

Thus, most of humanity toils not to produce, but to save the owners money. We could almost have a workless utopia if we set the minimum wage to $100/hour for a while, but the transition would see the vast majority of people become unemployed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That should hasten the revolution a bit.

[–] givesomefucks 2 points 5 days ago

Turn out the Luddites were actually pretty reasonable.

It's just back then the wealthy owned the media too, so they painted them as crazies.

[–] Diplomjodler3 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So when do I get my robot girlfriend?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Good news!

https://www.thegamer.com/i-cant-stop-laughing-at-the-175000-girlfriend-robot-from-ces-aria/

She even casually flips her hair (very slowly, and like someone with motor skills issues).

[–] Diplomjodler3 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

$175000? That's ridiculous! Who would pay that much for something like this?

On a totally unrelated note, does anybody want to buy a kidney?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The cost... wouldn't be that absurd if it wasn't so bad at what it claimed it's specialty was.

I specialize in humanlike conversation and emotional intelligence (head looks down at the floor, hands flailing off to the sides). Never once attempting to look at interviewer in the eye. Lips just flap randomly when talking.

It kind of baffles me what it's trying to sell, because the technology isn't exactly super out there. We have chat bots, and we have basic robot puppets that can fairly accurately mimic what their source is saying to do. It does not seem far fetched or even impressive to have a robot that makes eye contact and believable hand gestures... yet it can't do that. I've seen more believable emotional range from chuck e cheese animatronics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Hey man, don’t kink shame

[–] TheDemonBuer 4 points 4 days ago

Probably jobs that didn't need to exist in the first place. Unfortunately, people need the money, even if the jobs themselves aren't necessary. It's like in the Soviet Union where they would create superfluous jobs so that everyone could have a job, and an income.