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I'm sure some political talk will be unavoidable but I'd like to keep this dry and to the point if we could.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Trump has always been about bluster. He's currently "blustering" at the entire world. In his mind, he's setting expectations and trying to put other countries on their toes/sow chaos to "improve his negotiating position." In reality, his behavior is depressingly predictable even when the specific content is not, and no one is going to take the bait.

I also think part of this is focusing the American public on big manufactured controversies that have no chance of ever actually happening to keep them distracted from the awful things that are going to be coming out daily very soon.

[–] Aeao 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah I guess. But when he was saying last election "and Mexico is going to pay for the wall"

Mexico was just like "no we aren't"

Today I'm seeing blurbs about the prime minister resigning and Denmark changing the royal coat of arms... I guess both could be just coincidence, I was too busy to read the articles...

But I get off work today and om like "wait... What?... Why?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Trudeau is wildly unpopular and we have an election coming up this year; him resigning is the best chance we have of keeping the Conservatives out of office

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dane here

The change in coat of arms actually improved Greenlands position. They previously shared a square with the Faroe Islands. Both now have their own square

It could be seen as a move to please Greenland, as they have long been wanted independence, but they lack the economy for it

[–] Aeao 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ami saw the new coat of arms. As a stupid American with no knowledge of your country and history....

I think it was a good choice even if this didn't happen.

Again, I have no idea about the history....

It looked like two weird lion things in square one, then repeated in square two. Then like one squiggly lion thing in the forth square... The third square was a cramped partition of multiple symbols.

Again, don't know the history. I'm sure the repeated squigly lions ment something meaningful. Visually the coat of arms look better now.

I also have a lot of opinions on my state flag tho (Florida) what the fuck is with that steam boat? Are steam boats important to Florida? I've just got opinions on how these things look. It doesn't mean anything insulting to your country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Totally agree, that it looks cleaner. It's the royal coat of arms, so it doesn't represent Denmark as a nation, only the royal family.

I'm not very royally inclined, so whatever you say about their coat of arms have no effect on me. I see them at best, as a very expensive PR team for the nation, or if I was to put it in a mean way, a very expensive social welfare program

The state version is a simpler version of crowned shield.

The three lions are known to be used for 800+ years

As for the steamboat in the flag of Florida: I'm sure people also would protest if it was updated to a cruise ship 😛

[–] Aeao 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Honestly I'm always a bit shocked when I hear a country has a king. Like obviously I know England has a royal family but when it's like "the king of Denmark decided-" I'm always thinking "they still have a king? Why do they still have a king? I thought we all decided we weren't doing that anymore?"

I guess the best way to explain it is if you heard in the news "a slave revolt in Florida killed three today" your first thought would be "wait... They're still doing slaves over there? I just assumed we were all done with that"

Probably a stupid question but have you guys ever considered... Not having royalty? Like I get why England does it, it's a tourist attraction, Buckingham palace, those guard who don't move for whatever reason (which honestly is silly because what I want most out of my hired guards is... Moving around and doing guard stuff) but there money in that I'm sure.

I got to say Denmark sounds beautiful and I'd love to visit sometime. I wouldn't go by the royal family's house. Didn't even know you guys had one.

You guys could just... You know ... Stabbing motion get rid of that dead weight. But I suppose it's not my business. I should probably just focus on managing my slaves... Some of them learned to read recently so I need to put a stop to that.

Edit: On the other hand you're probably one of those countries with like healthcare, no school shootings, and bike lanes. So maybe kings are the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Trudeau's resignation and the forces leading up to it have been in motion for years, at best this was the straw that broke the camel's back, but everyone across the political spectrum has been thinking he should resign for at least a year now.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  • He seems to really want to be the president that makes the 51st state. He mentions it a lot.
  • Greenland is going to have a lot of power and probably be able to make a lot of money when arctic melt opens up the northwest passage to shipping in 10ish years, especially from the oil tankers leaving the arctic drill sites they want to "drill baby, drill."
  • Trump has always hated that we honored our agreements with Panama and gave up control of the canal. His advisors also know that climate change is going to force Panama to allow fewer and fewer ships, but MAGA has no qualms about using every last drop of their drinking water so long as shipping is unaffected.
  • There seems to be a growing drum beat to invade another country. Time to place bets on who our Poland will be.
[–] TootSweet 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He seems to really want to be the president that makes the 51st state.

Puerto Rico is right there.

District of Columbia too.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

He hates Puerto Rico. And no republican supports making DC a state because it'd vote very firmly blue and they'd lose the senate for probably at least 6 years, until the next super R favorable cycle comes up again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] DokPsy 11 points 1 week ago

You really want a Texas but cold?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Most albertans also don’t like trump. It’s a loud minority here that likes him.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's called a distraction. On Friday January 10th fat donnie will be sentenced in his criminal case. So he says crazy things to get people to talk about that, and not the fact that he is a loser criminal, con man. Also, he's nuts anyway. Old man yells at windmills!

[–] roofuskit 5 points 1 week ago

Whether that particular reason is correct, this is accurate. Trump making stupid noises publicly to distract from something he wants buried in the news cycle. Because the press is fucking stupid and always focuses entirely on the crazy shit he says.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Destroying the US's relationships with key allies is the reason putin put him in charge.

[–] Aeao -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's not a satisfactory answer to my question. That's what I said I didn't want. I don't like trump either. That doesn't answer my question.

As an example if I asked "why is that school over there on fire" and you answered "we don't fund schools enough"

I mean... Yeah ... I agree... But even if it's the "end of the day" reason it's not providing the information I'm looking for. Compared to something like " the oven In the kitchen was old and got too hot, the kitchen was understaffed so no one noticed in time, and the sprinklers hadn't been inspected in years so the fire spread. So it's a funding issue "

That's what I'm talking about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is a political question and therefore impossible to not awnser political

Trump wants to create a country in which the wealth of the nation is neither dependent on imports from other countries nor on the skilled workers within the nation

Why would you want that? Because setting up a more authoritarian government, where the government tells you what values, religions, and sexual orientation are acceptable is easier if neither your people nor other more liberal countries can stop you.

How would you achieve that? See Russia, have little complex labor and more simple or automated production. And rely on natural resources like gas and oil. Annex countries that have oil and gas but no strong military. I would assume both Canada and Greenland have gas reservoirs that are not used out if fears for environmental drawbacks. Trump could than use the fas without having to deal with disasters in his original borders

Assuming Trump acts logical, this annexation would help his goal while the negative relationships would not affect him strongly after he achieved it.

Or he just wants it because they said no, and he doesn't realize how much global relationships affect even countries that would prefer to ignore them

[–] Aeao 1 points 1 week ago

Assuming Trump acts logical

This is where I am different from the other people with negative views on trump. I don't think hes stupid. I'm a salesman. I'm good at sales. I used to like trump because he's a great salesman. There are things we could discuss about his age and mental health but I'm not a Doctor. I'm a salesman.

With that being said... Hes not able to do all that you described there. Theoretically he could if he surrounded himself with talented people and trusted their opinions.

That's where trump lost me a few years back. He's a salesman, that's a skill for sure, it doesn't make you great at everything and he doesn't seem to respect the opinions of others... So no team available to make good plans....

He can't do that stuff. He can make a mess and get people to support that mess. A master plan is beyond him. Not because he's stupid but because he fell for his own sales pitch. He's a salesman. Like me .

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The arctic drilling rights that come attached to Greenland are worth trillions

Control of Panama ensures American trade continues if shit hits the fact over tariffs and a trade war (it's an American weak point that could be used as leverage if America don't control it). Not that there's going to be a trade war. But talking shit about it like you're preparing for it is all part of the tactic.

But also all of this is nonsense designed for two reasons i) Trump's negotiation tactic is based on the "Madman theory" which was also popular with Nixon. Basically make your opponent think you're unhinged and crazy and they're less inclined to call your bluff and you're more likely to achieve your goals in the compromise. and ii) he doesn't want anyone to be thinking or talking about the fact he's getting sentenced on 10th January

[–] breadsmasher 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

political talk will be unavoidable

its literally only political.

[–] Aeao 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes I'm fully aware of that. I think you know what I was referring too. We all have our own opinions about trump. I just want to know the facts.

It's my first time in this group so I don't know what kind of crowd this is but I know if I look it up myself the story is going to be slanted one way or another.

I just want to know why taking Greenland, or Canada, or taking back the Panama canal is a thing I'm seeing at all on feed. Is this a real thing, a quote taken out of context, like what's going on right now.

[–] T00l_shed 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He wants these regions for the future where the polar ice caps melt, as they canada, Greenland and Panama will be/are major shipping routes. He's serious. You can't take it out of context. He wants these areas for greed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also: Canada is The top oil supplier to the US. 2nd highest uranium production 20% of the world's fresh water Estimated to have 15.2 million tonnes of rare earth metal deposits. A significant world exporter of metallurgical coal.

[–] T00l_shed 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, those too of course! Also lots of lumber

[–] Sanctus 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Distractions so rubes can ship his picks through without the public eye.

[–] Aeao 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well that backfired then because I had resigned myself to just white knuckling the next four years and focusing on what I can control and avoiding the news as much as I can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

next four years

People keep saying that, but there's a disturbingly strong chance that he'll still be President in February 2029.

I want very much to be wrong about that, but if I was a betting man I'd put money on it.

[–] Aeao 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Theres also a chance he could have a heart attack or stroke and die long before that. Or his mind could completely fail him. He's old. I know there's a lot jokes about it being passed down to his kids but none of them have the support he does.

Everyone eventually dies. It's the great equalizer.

[–] Sanctus 1 points 1 week ago

Go out and talk to randos in public. They dont know what's going on. They dont know who his picks even are. We're fucked.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump said he'd take control of Panama and Greenland potentially including a military invasion, and said he'd buy Canada.

Thats the short, out-of-the-loop, reason you're hearing about it.

[–] Aeao 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is there a reason why? It just feels really out of the blue and random? It's just I don't think I've ever heard him mention anything about Greenland before.

Panama canal I could see some reasons, I don't agree or like the idea, but I can at least see theres some history with that and America.

Canada is attached to the us and we had a war or two before I guess

Why greenland?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s just posturing to project strength and appeal to his base who want a strongman dictator. He did actually talk about buying Greenland during his first term as well. It’s probably just because it’s somewhat near the US and could conceivably be acquired without starting a world war. Not that I think it will happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

The only potential reason I can see is that it could be strategicly useful as climate change makes the weather there more mild. Given that this is Trump, however, and Denmark (and thus Greenland) is currently an ally, it would make more sense that he read it Twitter or something and he repeated it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

There's a funny "rumor" going around that Trump wants Greenland because of how huge it is (ie he has no idea what the Mercator projection is and thinks it's as big as Africa)

[–] j4k3 8 points 1 week ago

Populists and consular republics are typically expansionist and autocratic. These are the WW3 aspirations leaking from a person unable to hold back such info even as nothing more than a front man. The solution to the climate problem is to not change the exploitation or 1%. The solution is to purge the population problem; us. This is why WW3 will happen before 2030. The boarders will be redrawn after.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This is all just my opinion on why Trump (or the people controlling Trump) is/are focusing on these things:

Greenland: Access to the Arctic where there are huge untapped oil and mineral reserves as well as better defensive positioning against Russia, who are also trying to tap into the Arctic.

Canada: Even better access to the Arctic as above, also we already have a good amount of oil in Alberta, hydro energy from Quebec, and all that fresh water in the Great Lakes. All things that would be painful for the US to lose in a potential trade war over tariffs.

Panama: Critical infrastructure for global trade that China also really needs and would be a key advantage in a potential trade war with them.

Gulf of Mexico: Probably just a distraction from everything and cheap populism points with the MAGA crowd, but also possibly because "Biden said we couldn't drill more oil in the Gulf of MEXICO but this is the Gulf of AMERICA."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Elon Musk also threatened the UK