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[–] Ensign_Crab 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota

There.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 29 points 1 year ago

In Colorado the GOP has a covid denier in charge who claims it was a military psyops program. It's no wonder 95% of voters reject the GOP. Downside is that 95% live in the front range so the Western Slope is all in on the GOP dumbness.

[–] TropicalDingdong 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having the Arizona republican party on its heals is a bit shocking considering how shitty that state has been for the previous 12 years. At the same time, pretty familiar with it and do understand its not the monolith Dems and Pubs want to pretend it is.

[–] Ensign_Crab 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having the Arizona republican party on its heals is a bit shocking considering how shitty that state has been for the previous 12 years.

I think they figure that Democrats will keep running people who do what Republicans want, so they're free to fight amongst themselves.

[–] TropicalDingdong 10 points 1 year ago

Too bad they dont run people Democratic voters want..

[–] GiddyGap 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the addition of major problems in Georgia.

[–] cmbabul 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like I say “I’m from Georgia” a lot as a disclaimer on here, but don’t underestimate how much money and power the Georgia GOP and the ‘good ole boys’ that back them can swing. There is a LOT of old racist power in Augusta that will fight tooth and nail to prevent their status quo from changing, I’d revel in seeing them taken down but I’ll be skeptical until I see the corpse

[–] Hazdaz 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All these collapses are always temporary because Democrats do not have a strategy to link corruption and incompetence of local and national republican politicians to the party as a whole.

On the flip side, when Pelosi or Hillary or any local Democrat does something that Republicans think is especially stupid, right wing pundits link those actions to the entire Democratic party. That's how they poison the well when it comes to ever voting for Team Blue. Every Democrat is a communist in their literature and speeches. Every Democrat is going to raise your taxes. Every Democrat is going to vote in regulation that will kill your job.

Democrats, on the flip side, are far more likely to give a fresh Republican face a chance. And it's infuriating to see because even these young new Republicans still tow the line and vote in the same stupid, awful legislation that Republicans have been pushing for decades now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The fresh Republicans are the ones that have been raised by Tea Party ideals. They've heard 'burn it all down' so much that they hate Republicans that don't actually do it. You see this with the group that didn't want Kevin McCarthy, because he didn't do enough to burn it down beforehand.

[–] Hazdaz 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh absolutely. Some of the older Republicans knew that this was all just silly political games. They'd blast what a Dem would say during the day and then go out drinking with that same person at night. Many of those old timers were on quite friendly terms but they played the game that the "other side" was the bad guy. Thats simply how politics was done.

This younger group don't get that. They grew up seeing their Republican heros blast the Left on Fox News. They didn't know it was mostly just a game. They got radicalized by right wing media and many of them simply can't be reasoned with because they don't see politics as a game, they see it as a life-and-death war.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a feeling that once the big money pulled out of the Trump train, as was seen with Rupert Murdoch's choices after the Dominion lawsuit, we'd see this acceleration in the collapse of the GOP to that of a regional party.

I'm seeing a small hope in this news that the big money will sit this one out if Trump wins the primary, as the Biden administration is relatively business friendly, and the GOP's recent actions (aka the DeSantis Disney debacle, Trump's China tradewar, etc) indicate a significant threat to not only fundamental business rights and years of contractual law precedent, but international trade. There's also a general lack of faith in the RNC's ability to effectively strategize after the midterm losses and their budget issues last year, and the infighting in the House only adds to the trope that the GOP has lost control of itself, and no longer has the unity to deliver results back to the various members of the corporate oligarchy.

Honestly, they're going to get better bang for their buck with lobbying the Democrats this time around and making sure that their influence results in pro-business legislative action (or simply keeps the status quo) than continuing to fund fringe candidates that alienate independents and don't have the sense to budget properly (a mortal sin in conservative circles).

[–] dhork 8 points 1 year ago

we'd see this acceleration in the collapse of the GOP to that of a regional party.

The problem is that, because of the Senate and Electoral College, a regional party can still have outsized political power here, as long as they are in the right regions....

[–] rockSlayer 11 points 1 year ago

I find it interesting that they didn't also point out their flaccid performance in the Minnesota legislative session this year. With a single senator to create the senate majority and a "trifecta" state government, the DFL was pretty much all business passing 30 bills that had 70% support. It was republican senator Limmer that made the claim "2 ounces [of cannabis] makes 3 joints", it was a republican rep that was concerned about drug dogs going unemployed. We had a republican governor for years, and all of a sudden we get Walz, and he actually does things that help people

[–] Nastybutler 11 points 1 year ago

Couldn't happen to a nicer group of people

[–] overzeetop 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had to do a double take on the publication. Definitely not the article I expected to see in the National Review but, still, it does put a smile on my face.

[–] Zombiepirate 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if the National Review is being this explicit about the GOP troubles, it has to be a four-alarm fire in those State party offices.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 3 points 1 year ago

National Review isn't on board with MAGA.

[–] Treczoks 7 points 1 year ago

Good for humanity if they beat each other up.

[–] SweetSitty 6 points 1 year ago

"You cannot bellow, snarl, table-pound, and rage your way to an effective state or local party organization."

Shocked Pikachu face.