Political Memes

Family friend and stepgrandfather started talking about how Trump was "already having an effect on the economy" because gas was "finally 2.95" and that there was enough coal and gas in West Virginia to "power the whole country", that Joe Manchin was an evil liehbrul who stood up with HILLARY GODDAMN CLINTON and promised to shut down coal mines, that renewables were on their way out, that we needed to drill more, and that West Virginia would be one of the poorest states in the country if they closed down coal mines.

I only attend family holidays for my mother's sake, who had a rough time raising me and finally gets a 'normal' family life, if only her crippled son comes and participates. So I bit my tongue and ground my teeth together (in fact, even reciting this I can feel my fucking blood pressure rise) and endured some people who would never change their mind and are incapable of parsing facts.

My mother, incidentally, is religiously conservative, but also has always had a strong environmentalist streak.

Last time RATM was in my city, tickets were $500+ and the band showed up in limos. Their revolutionary days are long over

Mostly on the same page with my in-laws, but they are more neoliberal than leftist (we’re working on it).

Still, where previously they had mourned Brian Thompson and bristled at our pro-Luigi stance, by the time we came back for Xmas they were like “Why is the news still talking about this guy? So many people have died since then! This is bullshit. The media is bought and paid for.”

Funny to see the propaganda machine backfire.

Unrelated, but I made eggnog for the first time this year and it was amazing! I will not be buying eggnog from the store any longer.

Eggnog? Yes. Made a large jug of Clyde's tequila-sherry eggnog.
Politics? No. At least, none I remember.

Close family couldn't gather, so most of my Christmas evening was spent in VR drinking with friends. I think I downed nearly half a liter in a card game called "Shitty".

Does this imply that American eggnog is alcoholic? I was told eggnog is what we call kogel mogel, which is just whipped egg and sugar, basically.

My family told me I was crazy, that Trump wouldn't really put a 100% tariff on Chinese imports. They were the words straight out of his mouth. None of them knew who Peter Navarro is. I asked them if they solely voted for him because of his public racist remarks or what? It's sad when 60 year olds vote like teenagers think.

Ours was the sneak in eat and sneak out.

If you argue with them it allies them more with trump, because they feel like they have to defend him, and the act of defending him is "sunken cost" that will keep them supporting him.

We'll see how you feel in two years

Doesn't have that effect. And worse than being argumentative, it's dismissive

Treat like a toddler who threatens to run away when they don't get a cookie.

Stop doing what makes you feel better personally, start doing what we know has a chance to split them from the movement. Let them focus all their anger on their own movement.

We just have to stand back and watch