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If you argue with them it allies them more with trump, because they feel like they have to defend him, and the act of defending him is "sunken cost" that will keep them supporting him.
Doesn't have that effect. And worse than being argumentative, it's dismissive
Treat like a toddler who threatens to run away when they don't get a cookie.
Stop doing what makes you feel better personally, start doing what we know has a chance to split them from the movement. Let them focus all their anger on their own movement.
We just have to stand back and watch
Were you trying to respond to someone else? I see you quoted someone and what you wrote feels like a reply to something someone else said. If you're responding to the picture it doesn't mention Trump or anyone else. I just saw it and thought it was funny so I posted it here.
As far as what you said I agree with you especially because I was a former Trump supporter. People got angry at me (for good reason) when I supported him. What they did didn't help me leave, what did help me leave is seeing other supporters becoming even more crazy and violent, Trump's mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic and J6.
It's an example of what should be said instead of arguing...
I thought it was clear from context, but I've been over estimating people a lot lately.
Man you're being kind of a dick. Not saying it's a bad take but you should save the snapping for assholes and not people confused by an argument of little context combating a view that's only implicitly expressed by an image.
You can do the same thing without being vague and making people wonder if they're missing something by saying "many people think you should just keep your head down at these gatherings but..." and by removing the confusing quotes.
And drop the elitism. That shit looks bad on people that have earned it. It looks worse on someone from the internet who made the error of splitting overestimate into two words within their own self-fellating intellect based burn.
Just fucking chill out and feel free to DM me if you need to talk about something.
Different people can pick up on different things...
Like this:
I recognized a flaw of myself and that I need to be more careful and remember there's a reason newspapers are written at a 6th grade level.
The thing about that is reading comprehension is like a muscle, if everything holds your hand you never get better.
Sometimes you fall off when the training wheels are removed, but the other option is being a grown adult who still uses them.
If you're tired of seeing my comments blocking is easy, by all means do it.
Oh, we're all tired of seeing them
So, this reminds me of an interview question I like to ask and the worst possible answer I've received.
I like to ask people to describe a mistake they made, what they did to recover from it, and what they changed to avoid the same mistake in the future.
I think mistakes are great, because it's how we learn. I like this question because at its core it is recognizing that we are all flawed and we all make mistakes. When I ask it, I generally offer to share one of my own first so that they understand what I'm asking and also so that they understand that they won't be judged for the mistake.
The worst possible answer is when the mistake they think to share is along the lines of "trusting others".
It's a bullshit answer that suggests that the flaw they see in themselves is not recognizing that not everyone is as perfect as they think they are. It's not the worst interview red flag, but it's up there. It takes an incredibly un-self-aware person to screw up the answer that bad.
Yeah, but so is assuming answers you get in a job interview isn't just what they think you want to hear...
And social media comments to other people are rarely that, and if so only by coincidence.
I think we do reliably learn from this thread though, is that you are never wrong no matter what happens. The world around you is wrong but you never have been. Ever.
Look. If we boil that whole newspaper can of worms down the message looks a lot like "you guys are average and average is stupid and I'm smart." I'm sure with your sense for context you can see why many would conclude that you're still being an elitist asshole.
You can insist it's true- hell, it may even BE true but that's still no excuse for being a goddamn prick. Which is way worse than having reading comprehension skills or whatever.