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[–] Atlusb 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I assume this prevents some consumption of rations?

[–] AngryCommieKender 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One of my favorite wizard characters was worried about rations, so I wrote into her backstory that she actually made an original 1st level spell for graduation of Wizard's School.

That went over like a Lead Zeppelin. The spell used a tiny touch of wild magic to "randomly multiply" the ingredients you had available. Just a single berry? You're getting a day's worth of berries. A carrot, a celery stalk, and an onion? Well you're getting all the fixins for a delicious vegetable stew.

The spell created magical food that couldn't be used as the material component for a further cast, and consumed the material components given. It then produced 1 day worth of vegetables, fruit, and berries, per caster level up to 5.

The headmaster and two other professors watched my character demonstrate her spell, at which point the headmaster immediately mind wiped the other two professors, and explained that I could only keep that spell if I swore to NEVER allow anyone else to see me cast it. Apparently it strayed too close to Clerical magic, and could have reignited the Wizard/Cleric War, that never actually happened, and actually turn it into a shooting war this time.

That particular character gave up on creating new spells till she was above 16th level.

[–] spankmonkey 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I was wondering why the DM would even need to make a call, but I guess that would be relevant.

Any DM that said no without a reason for a lack of ants would be a bad DM.

[–] Atlusb 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe an ant hunt mini adventure or some minor consequence to this action.

[–] spankmonkey 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or just reward their creativity...

[–] rockSlayer 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The best DMs will allow it as an immediate reward and remember it for minor consequences later to progress the campaign in some way. "Druid knocked unconscious and taken while eating ants" type stuff

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Sure you can." Later on the druid fails a diplomacy check because they've got an ant stuck between their teeth.

[–] AngryCommieKender 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Druids shouldn't be engaging in diplomacy anyway. Most of the druids I've known, thought that diplomacy = "destroy all cities and allow the forest to grow you humanoid bastards!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

"okay so i have a great deal for you, you stop expanding your logging business and i don't turn into a tiger and eat your face, sound good?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I kind of like the idea of "of course you can! ... Rolls die

You have angered Ancephole, goddess queen of the ants!"

And then you get this cool side adventure where the party has been shrunk down and must escape a hive of sentient ants

[–] bluemellophone 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Pretty sure ants are already sentient, but I like it.

Edit: apparently ant sentience is somewhat hotly debated, and the current understanding of ant consciousness and metacognition is murky.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Honestly, people getting sentient/sapient messed up in fiction is one of my pet peeves, and here I go doing it myself.

Sapient ants. A colony of sapient ants

[–] ByteJunk 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I love that you came back and added that edit, that's some commitment to keeping us up to date on the latest scientific breakthroughs about ant brains (I mean, I'd they have one?) and I appreciate it.

Edit: ants do in fact have (tiny) brains.

[–] Lennny 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those ants were a druid colony and now you've eaten Neveah....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, this would be a lot of fun as a campaign. Starts off a normal group, druid played by the dm as a PC. Druid shifts, hijinks ensue, druid dies, and now the rest of the party has to battle their way across an unforgiven, sapient bug populated map, to reach the wizard's house to turn them back. It's only a mile away, but to them at their size, it might as well be the other side of the planet

[–] mipadaitu 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's just the plot to Honey I Shrunk the Kids. Depending on how old your group is, it might be nostalgic, or novel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Similar, but I'm thinking more bugs with cities. Fully sapient.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Or ‘ants are enough energy for an anteater, but not a druid doing other stuff. Buff melee attacks/perception while in anteater shape, but nerf them in some way if they change or try to use magic in human form’

[–] BleatingZombie 16 points 3 days ago

It also might not be enough calories for any kind of sustenance. It could just be the Druid's kink

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Expend a use of Wild Shape to use one ration less?
I mean sure, go ahead.

[–] BozeKnoflook 43 points 3 days ago

My rule as DM is that players can freely expend their normally limited resources if it's done for role playing or fun and doesn't affect the story, combat, etc.

Druid wants to spend all evening as an owl in the rafters of the barn? Cool. Wizard wants to create a pocket dimension in which he can then use Wish to create the universe's best ganja and smoke it in peace? Awesome.

Artificer wants to ... wait, he wants to do WHAT with his pants? Okay fine, but we're cutting to black for the evening. And there may be assassins in the morning now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

If you can't even fly around as an owl and eat voles in your free time, what is even the point?

[–] FilthyShrooms 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok so how much exp do I get for killing a hundred ants?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Each ant only gives you 0.0000000001 XP so multiply that by 100.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jokes aside

  1. They'd be 0 XP creatures
  2. XP should be awarded for progressing the story, the XP from CR is a helpful guideline for how much XP progressive encounters should award but killing random peasants or forest animals without progressing the story shouldn't award anything.
[–] Maalus 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If creatures were to award xp, then all mages' colleges wouldn't be about learning / books / spells. Intro to magic 101 would be "alright class let's slaughter us a bunch of goblins".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that’s how goes in like every mmo i’ve ever played

[–] Maalus 5 points 2 days ago

Ye, that's the difference between pen and paper and a game. Unless it's a singleplayer experience, gating stuff behind story progress doesn't bode well with players and ends up generating less repeatable gameplay. But for pen and paper, you have a DM that can adjust on the fly. They can give out a level for a daring escape, they can give inspiration based on player behavior, they can have a talk with players and hear their expectations on how their character should perform at this stage (i.e. "we have slain a dragon, and my dude is a paladin that isn't strong enough to wear a damned shield!"). They can give magic items that introduce novel ways to play a character. A game isn't advanced enough to do that yet.

[–] aeronmelon 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“Roll on it.”

rolls a 1

“You successfully transform Into an anteater, but it’s that blue Hanna-Barbera one who can’t catch a single ant to save its life.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Guys, DM has allowed cartoon rules!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well it does hurt the ants tho

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

They deserve it for their crimes.

[–] DarkCloud 33 points 3 days ago

They probably taste better in that form.

[–] PugJesus 5 points 2 days ago

Those are the best moments, tbh

[–] FoolishObserver 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Vampiric shapeshifter who only consumes while not human; it's more accepted that way

[–] FinalRemix 5 points 3 days ago

So, Jackie Daytona who wildshapes into VAMPIRE BAT!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

It also brings back some HP (at least in 3.5)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better an anteater than an aunt eater.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Depends are part of the equation I'll stick to insects, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're not into accidental golden showers?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Golden is negotiable. Chocolate is a nonstarter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

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