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Government sources have told Euronews that the damaged aircraft was not allowed to land at any Russian airports despite the pilots’ requests for an emergency landing, and it was ordered to fly across the Caspian Sea towards Aktau in Kazakhstan.
According to data, the plane’s GPS navigation systems were jammed throughout the flight path above the sea.
No accident
They jam gps against drone attacks, it was probably not aimed at the aircraft. If they were jamming gps because of a potential drone attack, they should have told the airliner that the airspace was closed.
Fucking idiot non caring russians.
and this?
the damaged aircraft was not allowed to land at any Russian airports despite the pilots’ requests for an emergency landing
Well IMO that just makes it worse, they let the airspace stay open, but refused them to emergey land!
No, that's not the case here.
They fucked up, realized it and then tried to cover it up.
I'm interested if you have any evidence/information about that.
They fucked up for sure, and tried to cover it up, but they also let the airspace stay open, and potentially jammed gps.
Plus the fact that an official investigation concluded it was shot at by a pantsir (sam?)
But wtf, russians are so incompetent they shoot at an airliner instead of a drone
yet they're even too incompetent to shoot it down fully
Link to the official accident report?
It's too soon for an official report. The experts are still investigating. And they will be thorough to include everything from the black box, technical data, videos/pictures from passengers... So far, there are only preliminary reports which are available to responsible authorities.
Pretty crazy you can mistake a commercial airliner for a small drone…
Try to do it on a 50 year old Soviet air defence system while drunk.
That shouldn't be an issue... If you are competent. There need to be multiple levels of incompetence in the hierarchy for this kind of accident to happen.
If you are competent.
And there it is.
Do people not realize that "drone" doesnt simply mean small quad copter? The us military CCA program is a whole suit of drones that are basically air planes? Look at this one... it looks more like a fighter jet than anything else
This is the micro machines version is a fighter jet. And still 1/100th of a commercial airliner.
This one, an Embraer 190AR, 36 m long, was not a hundred times bigger.
Assuming it's a cylinder (no wings) of 2.5 meter diameter and 36 meters length: 36*(1.25**2)*3.14 = 176.7 m3
The drone looks like 10 meters long and 1.5 meters in diameter: 10*(0.75^2)*3.14 = 17.6 m3
Therefore I stand corrected.
Not a mistake, they have the black box from the plane.
Not really, airliners have been confused for much smaller aircraft or missiles multiple times. There have also been plenty of friendly fire incidents where Russia shot down it's own military planes and even the US shot down it's own fighter plane a couple of days ago despite certainly more sophisticated and integrated IFF systems.
For that reason Russia should close any airspace it might have to operate air defenses in. Obviously that would look bad for them and they are not going to do it.
Just don't give the conspiracy dipshits in New Jersey any Russian SAM batteries.
Come on, this was not a mistake, incompetence or an accident. Its just the same type of "accident" like people falling out of windows. They want everyone to know that you are not safe from russian agents, without having the official goverment to confirm that it was them, because then it could be considered an act of war.
Well the plane had nazi tattoos so it was obviously justified.
That plane was in the Azov Battalion, I heard.
The war zone is quite large, might be time for commercial plans to avoid the conflict area entirely.
The chairman of the German defense committe has just been quoted recommending exactly that in a news report on the plane crash/shootdown. (source in German)
He urged civilian airlines to avoid the entire war zone and to abstain from overflying both Ukrainian and Russian territory for the time being.