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[–] STRIKINGdebate2 99 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I looked at the non Muslim Girl and real Muslim girl and it was a series of pictures featuring women with horses. These pictures were marked with a giant red x. The second half of that video was women in hijabs just staying still, marked with a green tick mark.

Is the message of that video supposed to be women shouldn't be allowed ride horses?

[–] EsotericEmbryo 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Yes it is one of the many arbitrary things that that specific religion demonizes. Probably has its roots from way back in the day so that women couldnt effectively run away from the men and get very far. Same reason most Muslim women arent allowed to drive. To this day they still have to have permission to leave and go do things without a man. Edit: lol at the downvotes. Give it a google if you don't believe me 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably has its roots from way back in the day so that women couldnt effectively run away from the men and get very far.

Can't speak to Muslim culture, but European culture way back in the day didn't want women riding horses because of sex.

There are a lot of branches on that tree, but the biggest one is that since horseback was believed to be capable of rupturing the hymen (hymen science has progressed quite a bit since I last looked into it, so I don't know if that's actually a thing), it was the same thing as having sex for women. They believed that women got sexual pleasure from it (which, I guess, was a bad thing), that they'd start craving horses as lovers instead of humans, and all sorts of weird shit that only twisted, perpetually horny dudes would think of.

So the sidesaddle was invented. It allowed women to ride horses while, literally and figuratively, keeping their legs closed.

Unfortunately, riding sidesaddle is a massive pain in the ass, so that fad didn't last long. Maybe about fifty years or so of general popularity (because, obviously, you can still get a sidesaddle and learn to ride in it today, if you want, for whatever reason) over the course of all horse-domestication history.

Of course, like so many things from European history, this primarily applied to rich/noble people. The poor didn't have the luxury of giving a fuck about most of it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

horseback was believed to be capable of rupturing the hymen

It can do that but that's only of any interest if you think a piece of skin is important.

[–] Dark_Blade 8 points 1 year ago

Even crazier is the belief that women would start craving horses as lovers if they kept riding horesback. Like…wut

[–] STRIKINGdebate2 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I gave a Google. It's seen as a taboo thing in many Middle Eastern societies based on a verse from Muhammad which curses the private parts of women who touch saddles. Curiously, this line has been debunked and the Quran literally mentions nothing about women riding horses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, sorry, I'm trying to understand. It's "based on a verse from Muhammad" but it's not in the Quran? Where is the verse then? And why does not being in the Quran invalidate it if it's by Muhammad?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Theres quran and theres hadith, quran is infallible, hadith not so much, this "verse of muhammad" is a hadith, possibly the falsified one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Either way, it still wouldn't make much sense for women to not be allowed to drive, but allowed to ride a horse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Isn't that basically the same logic why European women would often ride sidesaddle?

This was initially conceived as a way to protect the hymen of aristocratic girls, and thus the appearance of their being virgins.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidesaddle

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

You could write a book on things that women aren't allowed to do in Islam.

Except they did write it.

[–] fkn 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mark them as hate speech when I see them then block their poster. They are basically the mission version of "hegetsus" garbage. (Which I also mark as hate speech)

[–] Lemmylefty 3 points 1 year ago

This is destroying my fantasy of it being a short story about a non Muslim equestrian falling for a Muslim girl who’s afraid of horses.

[–] Chivera 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's why I use Newpipe and Revanced

[–] barnsbauer 13 points 1 year ago

Agreed. The entire homepage being half ad and half shorts hurts my eyes. Good thing we have Revanced and such. I just hope Revanced doesn't go the way of Vanced anytime soon.

[–] kzhe 5 points 1 year ago

LibreTube here

[–] hungry_hungry_stoner 5 points 1 year ago

Revanced, you say?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, newpipe and revanced user here as well.

[–] v1605 3 points 1 year ago

Also turn of the Payback in Feeds option, in my case it added them to my watch history and messed with recommendations. All the sudden my feed was filled with junk like this.

[–] Hyrulian 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Before: Broadcast Yourself

Now: Ads

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget youtik youtok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there a decent alternative to Youtube yet? It would make a killing if it had even a little bit better UX

[–] Vub 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly no. And we’re not gonna see an alternative any time soon. Noone has the server capacity (or 18 years of community building). The only ones who could maybe build something to match their servers would be other similarly shitty companies anyway. Like Microsoft, Amazon or Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Damn shame.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only reason youtube still exists with no viable alternative (for the populace) is the sheer amount of content thats uploaded on the platform and creators already being there as well as the difficulty/cost of sustaining a service that stores and serves video. There are so many platforms that do youtube's job as well if not much better than it but that will never rival it because youtube simply has all the content and content creators.

EDIT: imo odysee and peertube are the best alternatives we currently have but they will sadly never make youtube fear a single bit for their market share

[–] weepingSomnambulist 4 points 1 year ago

if you're talking about alternative ui/ux, you could try Piped/Invidious instances. Usually I use piped.kavin.rocks or yewtu.be to visit youtube on desktop browser. It basically youtube without ads and other bloats, also privacy-friendly. Or as other stated, you could try NewPipe or Libretube on smartphone. Keep in mind that all of these alternatives wont provide you google login functionality. These apps only store your search history locally on your device. It takes a bit of time to get used to not get fed by recommendation algorithm and not doing any mindless scrolling

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Use Revanced

[–] notun 8 points 1 year ago

Youtube has a frontpage?

[–] sagrotan 7 points 1 year ago

Don't have those plebs problems using NewPipe, LibreTube and Vimusic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] RagingHungryPanda 3 points 1 year ago

The red X is over the horse, but how do I know the horse isn't a Muslim woman? Horses could have their own practice and it isn't reasonable to assume they would do as humans do.

[–] noname_yet2077 1 points 1 year ago

You should better Sprawdź this ad tho 🤣

[–] Yoz 1 points 1 year ago

I started watching videos on odysee and the experience is great.

[–] PointThink 1 points 1 year ago
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