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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 hours ago

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).

This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.

Honestly I'd rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids' lives.

Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what's good for children and parents seems par for the course.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 hours ago

Why is it framed like it's something extreme?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalism literally has failed the human race

[–] PunnyName 37 points 8 hours ago

Always has.

[–] Skyrmir 96 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Decent first step, but it's going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Parenthood is already desirable. There's a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 hours ago

Also the future is bleak in the poly-crisis.

[–] TonyOstrich 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm logically aware that's the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven't ever regretted it.

[–] aoidenpa 8 points 5 hours ago

Same. I suspect fomo. I experience that for other things but I never bought that kids thing.

[–] PunnyName 8 points 8 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nice! really good direction. If this good results I hope more places follow suit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Childcare is outrageous. Daycare for my two kids was more than my mortgage every month. Ive been counting down until they were eligible for public schools

[–] Evotech 1 points 1 hour ago

Damn, in Norway is not free, but both public and private kindergartens (1-6) are capped in terms of what they can bill for each month. Which is about 210usd

The rest is paid for though taxes obviously.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Unfortunately for many of us Americans, there is a substantial contingent of our government that would really like to do away with public schools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Basically doubles income if it is free.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.

[–] kalleboo 5 points 6 hours ago

Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it's assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there

https://www.interlinkjapan.com/blog/renting/key-money

[–] MutilationWave 3 points 5 hours ago

Only once in my life have I got my damage deposit back. That is tipping the landlord a lot of money. The time I got it back was in a terrible situation and I had leverage over the parasite.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Usually the newer buildings owned by larger real estate groups don't do they kept money thing anymore.

I've only really seen it in buildings owned by small real estate concerns and old dudes.

It's luckily getting kind of pushed out as a normal thing, just slowly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Housing in Tokyo is known for being relatively affordable, actually.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not in Tokyo, but farther out in Tokyo's residential cities (outside the 23 wards like Chiba and Saitama)

It's even cheaper the farther you get from train stations. There's a 30 minute walk "cliff" where residential land prices plummet when you're more than 30 minutes walk away from a train station.

[–] Vorticity 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If I lived in Tokyo, though, I certainly wouldn't want to be a 30+ minute walk from a train station. That makes leaving home a pretty big task.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

you could always use a bicycle

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

ya it's funny when you watch some videos about "small apartments" in tokyo and only to realize they are still more cheaper and spacious than some NA options in big cities.

[–] MutilationWave 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

less expensive more expansive

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

four-day workweek

/me franticly googling rents in Japan

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago

The way I've heard it said is "if you live in a developed country, you could probably afford to move to Japan right now. If you get a job in Japan, you'll never afford to move back."

Japan's cost of living is low compared to developed nations, but their average income is also low for a developed nation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago

rent is cheapish, it's everything else that will get you. if you're fine with crushing and all-permeating conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and misogyny, how you won't be ever accepted as one of their own as foreigner and famously toxic work culture, feel free to give it a shot

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Housing in Japan is cheap. Smaller than you're used to but still cheap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Housing in Japan is treated the same as a car, it depreciates as soon as you move in.

[–] MutilationWave 3 points 5 hours ago

This should be everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What governments and corporations never understand and will never want to understand is that ....

... it isn't about the quantity of life ... or even the quantity of people who are alive or are born

... it's about the quality of life

If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.

Otherwise if you don't take care of people, they will either have no children or a bunch of children that will all grow up to become a burden to society.

[–] kalleboo 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.

You would assume that, but is it really true? The countries with the safest and most comfortable lives, in Scandinavia, have the lowest birth rates. The countries with the least safe and comfortable lives, in Africa, have the highest birth rates.

[–] ClamDrinker 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Well, countries with higher birthrates have a third option that is essentially negligible in those with lower birthrates, which is not even making it to adulthood. Effectively still less children end up becoming productive members of society. And together with that, due to less available social services, often a goal of having children survive is so they can take care of the parent when they're older.

As soon as infant mortality becomes a non-factor, birthrates decline drastically as well. And since children are no longer largely seen as a "life assurance" for when parents are older, and the society's demands for productive members is higher as well, the focus really does shift to the quality of the life and the two types of reasons to have kids are harder to compare. But even among developed nations you can see differences in fertility rates.

PS. Scandinavia doesn't have the lowest birth rates, they actually have fairly typical birth rates for more developed regions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago

Affordable housing, better working conditions, less working hours, efficient healthcare and better pay. It's not hard goddamn it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Considering the situation they should mave life care, no one wants to have babies there. Raise by social entities

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Considering the situation in this country, the government should have gone a step further and implemented a live care system (LIVE care), where children are raised by specialized care organizations.

[–] skhayfa 2 points 9 hours ago

That would be a hit in the US