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[–] MirthfulAlembic 137 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Illegally manufacturing expensive cancer drugs under patent and selling them on the black market cheaper would be a very interesting reimagining of BB.

[–] hypnicjerk 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

walter never gets high on his own supply, dies

[–] MirthfulAlembic 26 points 1 day ago

Pride would force him to only pay for cancer drugs the "legal" way. He'd fly too close to the sun trying to make enough money to afford them full price without insurance and create his own downfall. Cue "Baby Blue" by Badfinger as Walt dies after running out of legit cancer drugs that are blue pills while he has a barrel of them that he made in the other room.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Breaking Good?

Edit: I mean, Walter is gonna sell it below what Big Pharma sells right? More competition = Lower Prices? hopefully

[–] bigFab 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

More like 'Breaking Even Worse'. Whole US would go after him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

More like Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He pretty much HAS to sell for lower to actually have a market - who buys from an illicit source if it's not even cheaper than through the normal channels?

if he tried to sell through normal channels, he'd probably get slapped with patent infringements or similar legal bs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You might buy from an illicit source at full price if the genuine product was outright denied.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

What would lead to someone being outright denied to buy medication, even if they pay with their own money? I could see it for things opiates, but no one takes cancer drugs for fun.

[–] mkwt 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Patent infringement, yes. But there's also a gazillion quality control rules and forms and FDA submissions to manufacture drugs licitly. We know Walter White can control the quality, but does he have the patience to file the paperwork?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

You know, I’m almost 40, a big reader, and have seen and heard “illicit” my whole life.

I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen anyone use licit, and that’s fascinating.

[–] marcos 9 points 1 day ago

On season 1, no, he run away from inspection all the time.

On season 3, no, he knows where the inspector lives, and the inspector runs away from him all the time.

On season 7, no, but he runs the FDA and makes them add bullshit requirements to impede big-pharma all the time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Won't anyone please think of the shareholders? Without the monopolies they pay lobbyists to maintain, nobody would ever invent anything. There's literally no other way; I checked and none of them are profitable at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At first but then he goes bad when big pharma comes after him and he wins and corners the market

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

No at first he flies under the radar but his drugs end up being more effective than the market ones which causes doctors to start using them in clincs. first for family and friends but eventually more generally. The fbi, cia, nsa, dea, fda, wwf, and such get involved and he is caught and brought up on terrorism changes since he is to popular with the citizenry to face legitimate charges.

[–] gofsckyourself 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] supercriticalcheese 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's the same? Also has the author's name is still visible

[–] gofsckyourself 19 points 1 day ago

It's not the same. It's a higher quality image. It also seems like someone colored in their lab suits yellow.

I made no claims about not having the author's name. I'm just providing a convenient link to more of their content.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love the idea behind this movement but there's no validation or proof to know what you make is actually effective.

I'd love to see the guy behind this movement actually do studies on the efficacy of home made pharmaceuticals but then I have a feeling that big pharma would shut it down.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the alternative is cost prohibitive and you have no insurance or some fascist wants to prevent certain people from certain types of care, I think the point is pretty moot. I'm assuming efficacy would be directly related to the skill and knowledge of your cook, just like meth.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I assume there's a market of very desperate state-locked women that'd only grow with the second Trump presidency, if we center up on abortion medications they provide. If I were in this collective, I'd go far and beyond with veryfying drug makers on a personal level, maybe giving them something akin to a checkmark on their own site, because there is a threat of right-wing fuckos selling meth or rat poison while cosplaying as a legit makeshift anrchist lab under their guidance. Ough, what a sentence. Anyway, yeah, the circle of trust should be tight with that one and if I was a woman (or any patient) I could've used a couple of peers confirming they had a good batch from the X lab and it caused no harm to them. If we are talking serious drugs one little fucked up doze is enough to bury you, and it takes a very dedicated person to try it first.

[–] QuarterSwede 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oi. It’s bad enough people burn their houses down trying to do their own electric … well, I guess this way they’re only harming themselves, right? Yeah no, this is totally going to be used in the family too, isn’t it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Still better outcomes than being born a Christian Scientist

[–] Agent641 3 points 1 day ago

I make all my own chemo drugs from crushed up alkaline batteries and diet dr pepper

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

You can make even more money denying cancer drugs.

[–] randomdeadguy 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, that's a great idea but Meth heads typically only need one methamphetamine product, the best one. Cancer patients have different needs and might need many different drugs. I'm not saying Walt couldn't do it, and I know I'm nit-picking about a fictional character, but it would be considerably more difficult to use his abilities as a chemist (not a doctor or pharmacist) to successfully treat cancer patients. Otherwise, he probably would've opted to treat himself first.

I guess that's the point of the series, he had to do evil to save himself and he lost everything worth living for.

[–] nBodyProblem 1 points 1 day ago

He doesn’t need to treat himself, he just needs to find uninsured patients that will accept prescribed medication from an alternate source.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've been saying for years that

A) It'd be cool if

And

B) Someone eventually will

Make/smuggle black market medicine (not drugs medicine, ykwim) and sell it both through the good ol sneakernet or even onion sites like WHM or SR.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Planet Money podcast did a bit where they followed up with people who fell for buying cheap pharmaceuticals from spam emails.

The assumption was that people paid the too good to be true prices, and then never got anything in the mail.

The weird twist was that everyone interviewed was really satisfied with the product they received.

Now, all disclaimers certainly apply: don't trust a spammer with your life, there's nothing to stop imitator scammers from joining the legitimate?! spammers, and people's satisfaction is a poor measure of drug safety and efficacy.

But it does seem like a sign that someone is doing some of this already.

[–] marcos 5 points 1 day ago

"A police operation today invaded an illegal drugs lag, confiscating 100kg of illegal cough syrup and enough methanphetamine reagents for producing other 300kg"