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[–] AusatKeyboardPremi 3 points 4 hours ago

Sharing my comment[0] from [email protected]:

I loved the teaser, but the thought that kept running through my head was that, aside from the style, colour palette, and a more varied supporting cast, this iteration feels very similar to the previous one: We still have a serious, bruised Superman enduring the public’s ire.

I find it ironic, given that the main critique of the character over the past decade was precisely this portrayal.

Perhaps the full trailer will distinguish the themes better.

Either way, I look forward to the movie.

[0] https://lemmy.world/comment/14061260

[–] dariusj18 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm glad this seems to be a comic book Superman and not another standalone origin story. IMO "Man of Steel" was pretty much the perfect solo superman origin story movie.

[–] wjrii 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They say that escapism media tends to be a response to the particular anxieties of an era. Probably pretty telling that this looks like it's going to be a multi-lateral, consensus-building, hope-inspiring take on Superman.

Truth, Justice, and [what we were sold as children should be] the American Way.

Also, KRYPTO! Dyno-Mutt and Blue Falcon movie when???

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't actually watch the trailer to see if they use the old "American Way" slogan, but they changed it a few years back to "Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow" which I quite like

[–] LordCrom 2 points 3 hours ago

Why not use the old cartoon version. "Truth, Justice, and Peace."

[–] wjrii 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That is better, even just as a calculated marketing notion. The trailer didn't actually have the slogan, just very traditionally wholesome Superman imagery, stuff like Supes being saved by a happy superdog, taking a big hit to save a child, hanging out on the Smallville porch with Pa Kent, that sort of thing. There are also at least two costumes in the trailer, and one of them is very old-timey with square-cut trunks.

Seems like Gunn has been tasked with channeling the Christopher Reeve movies and rebooting the Justice League (hopefully not entirely in in a single movie again), and doing all of it with more heart than the Snyderverse take on DC. Tall order, but he has shown he knows how to deliver the Superhero goods that the studios want while playing around on the edges enough to keep the formula fresh, so I might actually watch this one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

I think "the American way" is fine if Clark is depicted as someone who's lived in America all his life and loves America, but esp. if you're skipping that origin story (like this movie is), it does feel a bit odd to have an alien from a different planet so focused on the values of just one of the countries of Earth.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

Forgot that Krypto was in this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I love how triumphant this soundtrack is. This should be a treat.

Seems like the whole thing is in IMAX too, which would be cool.

[–] wjrii 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I haven't watched any Superman stuff other than the 80s movies. Did the other reboots use the John Williams theme?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure Superman Returns did.
I think it's the only one since then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

The only iterations of Superman I've seen were the Snyderverse and LEGO Movie versions, neither of which used that theme.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

This looks genuinely cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

this trailer tells me nothing. my only interaction with superman is some comics from the 60s, so i know krypto the wonder-dog, but since when is "there is a dog" something that you put triumphant music over?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

this trailer tells me nothing

In the day and age where trailer seems to be oversharing info in multiple trailers, this is good news to me. And as always i'll stop watching any trailer after this.

[–] wjrii 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

since when is “there is a dog” something that you put triumphant music over

Since today, LOL.

The general vibe here is that this Suprman is good and kind, and the trailer is directly tying that notion to triumph. We'll see if the movie bears that out (and if it's just generally any good). Watching the trailer, I assume there's going to be a part either at the beginning or in the middle where a set-piece in the more muted Snyder-y action-y suit is going to go very wrong and provoke a period of reflection, but I assume he'll accept his inherent cheesy goodness by the last act.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

the vibe i got is that he's angry and stressed...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Looks pretty dope. Too bad my mom won’t let me watch DC movies after how bad Batman v Superman was.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't like that movie?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nah. Suicide Squad neither.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Which one, the first or second one?

The first one was pretty bad although there was some stuff I liked about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The first Suicide Squad. By the time the 2nd had come out, I’d sworn off DC movies altogether.

The only one I mourn is Joker (though not as sad about that because part deux has horrible reviews).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Joker and Shazam were good. Theo other stuff post Justice League either I haven't seen or wasn't good, beyond the second Suicide Squad ofc. (I did like Birds Of Prey but I admit that was a bad movie)

Joker 2 was great even though it was a pretty big step down from the first movie, but only I and Nando V Movies think that.

[–] rezz 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

BvS is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen, surpassed only by Suicide Squad, which was the second movie I ever considered walking out on after Eat Pray Love.

I honestly can’t recall a worse theatrical experience than both BvS and Suicide Squad when it comes to expectations versus final entertainment value. I’d rather see Rise of Skywalker again, which made me so sad to watch.

EDIT: I see you might be referencing first or second SS. First one is clearly garbage, second is a solid 7/10 for most folks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

BvS is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen, surpassed only by Suicide Squad

I can't imagine how that's true unless you don't watch many movies. The first Suicide Squad movie is pretty bad but it's nowhere near how bad a movie can be.

[–] Num10ck 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean...just going through movies I've seen this year, Venom 3 and The Substance were pretty bad. Madame Web and Argylle were awful too.

[–] Num10ck 1 points 4 hours ago