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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yet only one CEO πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Education system is truly broken

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The year ain’t over, and I’d bet money that the shootings ain’t, either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Won't most American schools be on their break by now?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Next week for us.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm guessing roughly 1 a day.

I want to add, it's not shocking. It is impossible to afford any kind of real mental health care. $50 sessions for a therapist are only worth their weight in gold; only if you can afford it.

If you or your child needed therapy you are looking at ~7 hours of minimum wage once a week in order to afford it assuming you have insurance.

We don't take mental health seriously in the United States.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

school shootings, more like 1-2 a week.

Regular mass shootings are up to 8 in a day.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually, @[email protected] is closer. There have been 323 in the US this year which makes it 0.93 school shootings per day or 1.79 school shootings per school day in the US (assuming 180 school days a year)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're running with different definitions, is all. Given every school shooting is highly preventable, either number is valid.

[–] stevestevesteve 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unlike other data sources, this information includes gang shootings, domestic violence, shootings at sports games and afterhours school events, suicides, fights that escalate into shootings, and accidents.

Using this wide definition is clearly muddying the waters of what is colloquially known as a school shooting. Those words make people think of uvalde and Columbine, indiscriminately shooting many of the kids. Suicides, accidents, etc are MUCH different and implying they're the same is actively harming genuine discourse on the topic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Exactly my thoughts. 80+ is already a horrific number, it's not going to make people more likely to act to artificially balloon the number 3x. There could be 1000 school shootings in one year and I doubt the US people or Govt would do a thing. They actively choose this every day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

My numbers are coming from the K-12 School Shooting Database. They probably use different definitions. The stat I was going by was just what I saw most articles in my country going by (Australia).

[–] cheese_greater 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even with therapy, its often an issue with the home environment that cant be mental.health.care'd away. Often theres a raging psycho creating a shit environment and making everyone crave for them to just fuck off and let them live and thats often exactly what everyone needs

Psychos dont tend to pursue non-flattering diagnoses and admitting their imperfections or straight-up schemings

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well, Israel and Russia are trying to claim some room in that space, but yeah, it's still probably "most of them".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] 0_0j 2 points 1 month ago

Good'ol minor "collateral"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Vinny_93 13 points 1 month ago

Anything you'd like to share with the rest of the class? I remember seeing a number like 300 of 400 at some point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what's official number?

[–] KoalaUnknown 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

According to this article by ABC, there was 323 school shootings and in the US this year, down 26 from last year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's crazy 😧

[–] 0_0j 2 points 1 month ago

Cool, now you know how billionaires feel every single day

[–] Eheran 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing they can do about it!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have they tried "thoughts and prayers"?

[–] Professorozone 2 points 1 month ago

That's not the solution. We need more guns. Since there are more guns than people in the US, I would guess the shootings would end when we have 2/person. Or maybe more powerful guns or twice as many cops. I'm really not an expert on this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Feel free to crosspost to [email protected]

[–] venusaur 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think I hear about a school shooting about once every two or three months. And, I believe underreporting at a national level paired with myself not having time to keep up means that I hear about roughly one in every hundred shootings.

Typically there's about 180 days of school per year.

Crunching some vague math, my guess seems preposterous: ~340 school shootings in 2024. That's almost two per day. But, the more I thought about it the less preposterous it seemed.

TL;DR - My guess is a seemingly preposterous 340 school shootings in 2024, or almost 2 per school day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

323, according to Google. Idk if that includes yesterday's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's fallacy fallacy. I got close to the right answer for highly-questionable subjective reasoning that's barely better than luck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not bad for a guess! I was floored, by the number.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I don't have the heart to make a joke here. I'm just tired

[–] pjwestin 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Is it 2024?