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[–] rovingnothing29 11 points 19 hours ago

Someone in Maine seems to have failed to ID the moon last week, so Jersey isn't doing so bad.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh also

I keep seeing Starlink pics claimed as drones…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Drone:

The Maryland governor actually posted a picture saying he was worried about drones and it was orion's belt with a couple other stars in the picture.

https://www.newsweek.com/mystery-drones-restricted-areas-2002176

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Happy Wheels is just all drones?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

It’s supposed to be purple. I’m the voyager dev πŸ€“

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh sick, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Ohhhh, I've seen you around and wondered what your name color meant. Maybe you should show why a name is colored a certain way when you click a username?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not even American and even I have figured that a lot of that shit seems to be being push by the Republican party.

Instead of "bread and circus" they are just giving you "aliens and Iran".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

Remember the poors killing that sweet, innocent healthcare denier? Well, DON'T!

LOOK! DRONES!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Gotta whip up the hate so we can justify Iraq War 3. Wouldn't be surprised if we get a bunch of new Chinese Balloon Invasion and Mexican Border Crisis hysteria in the next year, as well, since we want to pick fights with both of them.

Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. We have the tools to get them to believe just about anything, simply be saturating their eyeballs and ear holes with terror.

[–] Furbag 1 points 3 hours ago

Mexican Border Crisis hysteria in the next year

No, no, no, don't be silly!

The migrant caravans aren't scheduled to come until one month before the next midterm. We have at least two years before we hear about that one again.

[–] Mirshe 2 points 8 hours ago

Trump has already been spitballing military intervention in Mexico "to fight the cartels", like we don't already provide Mexico with a ton of anti-insurgent trainers and totally-not-special-ops guys who totally do not do violence in-country.

[–] Demdaru 5 points 21 hours ago

The absolute best part is...it's USA. The moment your military gets actually slight spook, of the you know, short gasp variety...you know it because your military complex temporarily forgets limits of today's technology and produces some sci-fi shit. And yet ya all are still able to be made to be scared of... looks into his book Mexico and...Iran...

[–] whotookkarl 1 points 18 hours ago

Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt, it's the same FUD tactics the wealthy have used for decades to distract from the real problems that should have been resolved decades ago.

[–] FilthyShrooms 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The "with props" implies that all the other ~~planes~~ drones dont have props. All hail the prop-less Cesena!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Well if they are unmanned they are technically drones. How can you tell from so far away and the middle of the night and with a crappy recording device.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I see cold war migs doing low altitude passes I'm calling somebody lol

[–] Maggoty 7 points 1 day ago

Bottom mid is an SU-37. Which would be slightly more alarming.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

Put the toy quad copters you can get at Costco on there

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I guess the army doesn't know a drone from a plane then? the following comes from the DOD.

_We have had confirmed sightings at Picatinny Arsenal and Naval Weapons Station Earle," the spokesperson said

"To date, we have no intelligence or observations that would indicate that they were aligned with a foreign actor or that they had malicious intent," the spokesperson said. "But ... we don't know. We have not been able to locate or identify the operators or the points of origin." _

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4002374/joint-staff-addresses-drones-over-new-jersey-military-installations/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"We have had confirmed sightings at Picatinny Arsenal and Naval Weapons Station Earle," the spokesperson said. "This is not a new issue for us. We've had to deal with drone incursions over our bases for quite a time now. It's something that we routinely respond to in each and every case when reporting is cited."

It's not explicitly stated, but my read is they get normal consumer-style quadcopters regularly, and this is simply a continuation of that. Perhaps an increase because people are now trying to explicitly spy on the military.

The public drone sightings, on the other hand, definitely don't seem to be consumer quadcopters. They mostly look suspiciously like 737s, V-22s, or out of focus stars.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps an increase because people are now trying to explicitly spy on the military.

Is that a new development? You'd never know the Cold War had been a thing for half a century.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, could have been clearer. I was talking about random dumb civilians.

Quadcopters have been buzzing military bases for years, basically since they became available to the public.

With all this PR about drones and people sometimes blaming the military, the number of dumb civilians thinking about 'spying' on military bases will be on the rise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: Civilians get arrested all the time for flying FPV drones and similar over military bases. See this article for an example: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/12/11/chinese-citizen-arrested-after-allegedly-flying-drone-taking-photos-of-space-force-base.html

This is the US military we're talking about. They have the capabilities to know exactly what's above their base's airspace and have still chosen to do nothing. This implies that most of the drones are military controlled.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

They may be making a PR decision to issue warnings rather than actually arrest people.

I don't see anything in the article that suggests they know drones have gone above their bases but not been identified or dealt with.

I think the reference to not being able to identify everything is in reference to civilian reports.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

we have no intelligence or observations (..) we don't know. We have not been able to locate or identify

They have no clue by their own admission.

To claim that what amounts to a literal UFO might belong to a hostile actor just because you don't know that it doesn't is irresponsible at best, scaremongering jingoism at worst.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Crazy how you can have a budget in the trillions for national security but "Idk, maybe their not unfriendly? We need another six months to look into it" is the best our top military brass can come up with.

Really makes you think about how easy 9/11 was to pull off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's like trying to disprove Bigfoot. Someone comes to you with a shaky, out of focus video with no audio, time, date, or precise location.

I can't prove it's not bigfoot. That doesn't mean I think it is Bigfoot, or that you should think so.

If you have good video and know where it was shot from and can cross-reference that with aircraft trackers? Then maybe they can do a good investigation. There's been a few of those where it turns out to pretty obviously be a helicopter, a V-22, or just a 737.

Especially since it's rather hard to judge scale on airborne things some distance away.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I can’t prove it’s not bigfoot.

I mean, its trivial to prove something isn't Bigfoot on the grounds that Bigfoot Isn't Real. That's just Hitchens's Razor. The burden of proof is on the person presenting the claim, not the one refuting it.

Especially since it’s rather hard to judge scale on airborne things some distance away.

A bunch of the sightings have literally just been stars in the night sky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, its trivial to prove something isn’t Bigfoot on the grounds that Bigfoot Isn’t Real. That’s just Hitchens’s Razor. The burden of proof is on the person presenting the claim, not the one refuting it.

Shifting the burden of proof doesn't disprove the claim. You can look at a picture and call someone an idiot for believing it's bigfoot/a drone, but still not be able to swear that there is no way it could possibly be a drone.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Shifting the burden of proof doesn’t disprove the claim.

It eliminates the concern. NASA isn't setting it's launch schedule against the possibility of a vessel colliding with Russell's Tea Pot, because there's simply no evidence it exists.

You can look at a picture and call someone an idiot for believing it’s bigfoot/a drone

If I hand you a blank piece of paper and tell you it's a photograph of a Yeti, you aren't obligated to prove I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

Exactly. The military isn't obligated to look at every single picture and tell you that it's not a drone. But if they don't do that, they can't say "we have looked at every single picture and confirmed there are no suspicious drones".

The military is rightly refusing to prove a negative.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 1 day ago

NCD would like to know your location.

[–] ZILtoid1991 3 points 23 hours ago

Which one is the goddamn Batman?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

747 F16 Piper Comanche

A320 Mig 15 AN2

737 Russian thing RV4

Concord F35 C172

777 SU27? RV6A

Fokker tri motor Caravan?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Looks like a MiG-29 to me

[–] M137 2 points 23 hours ago

The Iranian mothership should be a drone, would be funnier IMO.

Or is the image for that something specific? Been too busy playing the India Jones game all day so I've missed news etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol
I don't see any indigenous birds on this list

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

They do. They're just drones, tho.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That's because they're all dead

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