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[–] ellypony 327 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?" "Fuck yeah, bud" "Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal"

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[–] Lost_My_Mind 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there's a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.

Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn't happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people......it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.

That's not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.

Otherwise, I'm confused where "radicalized" comes from.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

The media attempting to paint a narrative. Consent manufacturering machine go brrr.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

People don't read the manifesto, just the headlines calling him radicalised.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago

Sadly reasonable conclusions based on reality is pretty based.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Oh no, reality is leaking into the media! We must stop this unapproved narrative!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Read that in his voice, well done.

[–] AlphaOmega 166 points 1 month ago (8 children)

That's what reddit banned, it's so innocuous.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They didn't ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.

This whole time I can't believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. It's as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

barbara streissand has taught them nothing apparently

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.

The leader of the country once said: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts"

So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

"When the denying starts, the deposing starts" would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.

[–] finitebanjo 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don't even admit this is a call for violence.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 108 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If sharing Luigi's manifesto is glorifying violence then so is sharing the Declaration of Independence.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If only Thomas Jefferson had somehow managed to cap a member of English Royalty. Instead, then Jefferson crossed the pond to suck up to Louis XVI, shortly before the man went full Ropespierre's Necktie.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago (1 children)

note that reddit didn't have a problem with "orks must die jokes" or people celebrating war fotage as long as they celebrate the right peoples deaths

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Drone kill footage is like the reciepts of investment, if not the product itself.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

Of course not, it's just Spez sucking up to the billionaires in the hope that one of them will be dumb enough to toss him a few million for his shitpile.

[–] GrammarPolice 49 points 1 month ago

Stop using Reddit

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

For a website with sections called nsfl and fight porn reddit takes a weird stance on manifestos.

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[–] pachrist 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No, it's not.

It's an acknowledgement that there's a massive problem.

These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.

We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn't act surprised that it still happens. I don't think we should celebrate it, because it's sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't believe you've done this

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Is anyone with a pulse still on reedit? All I ever see there are AIO/AITA/best of creative writing exercises that reek of ChatGPT

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Reddit was full of false outrage and fake stories long before GPT ever existed. Just the last few people that were willing to post have kind of wandered off. I think we got the best of them here

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm there for certain communities that aren't active here. I still don't use the official client though, it's horrible

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[–] Rooty 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Constent manufacturing factory manufactures consent, millions shocked.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

See, then you are giving a murderer's message publicity. As opposed to UnitedHealthcare, responsible for far more many deaths, having the ability to have as much publicity and as many lobbyists as they want.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Alleged murderer.

I think he is more than just the (relatively trivial) allegations against him. He has rallied support for massively reforming the American Healthcare system, which will save countless lives, improve our quality of life, and ensure the financial stability of the American Public.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I've definently noticed how more and more things are being disallowed to talk about on social media. It's just a matter of which platforms has which rules, but the rules are also changing as more and more people are complaining about reading things they don't agree with.

I suspect we will just discuss memes in the future, and politics, since politics is something that the leaders want us to care about and fight eachother over.

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[–] Gemini24601 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone with half a brain can see that it isn’t β€œglorifying” violence, it’s merely giving an explanation of why Luigi did what he did. Glorification would play more into pathos, but the manifesto is mostly ethos

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, lots of .world communities will censor it too, and they’re still FEDerated.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I literally found my way here because of lemmy.world bullshit. No, discussing jury nullification isn't inciting to violence.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hi I’m new to Lemmy since Reddit decided to permaban me due to support I showed for Luigi. Good riddance to be honest. I should have fully quit when they shut down Apollo but didn’t know Lemmy existed.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I've always thought well educated people have a great potential to be dangerous and achieve transcendental goals if organized. A group of engineers, of chemists, physicists, biologists, computer scientists after specific goals may be formidable enemies if they wanted. The 0.001%, the dirty rich, should now be aware.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman 30 points 1 month ago

Fuck Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Depends on the context in which you're sharing it.

If you share it with a title like "We need more of this", then yeah, because you're encouraging further acts like it. If you share it with a title like "This is the manifesto written by the alleged CEO killer", then that's not inherently glorifying violence, you're just sharing something you found and being informative. But if you share it in response to the question "Hey Reddit, what are some fun things I can do in NYC this weekend?", then you're back toward the "glorifying" side. Context makes all the difference.

Whether or not anybody gives a shit about that distinction, though, is a different question.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Reddit said so because it's CEO is known to be a greedy bastard who threw everything and everyone Bunder the bus for money. Luigi would not approve

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Reddit also thinks appealing a ridiculous van is harassment, so not exactly the brightest bulbs over there.

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[–] zkfcfbzr 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They really couldn't figure out that that first [indecipherable] is "fourth"?

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[–] frog_brawler 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Glorifying violence is A-Ok when the government awards people the Medal of Honor.

Reddit needs to come up with a more accurate excuse for their censorship.

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