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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Some warlock indeed, can't even magic his wood in the right hole

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do you really think it would be better in the bed? I probably would have done the same

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I always prefer my wood in the bed but it's really a two-person job, at least

[–] Woht24 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I count my imaginary friend Palmela as my plus-one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does your plus-one imaginary friend give you a hand with your wood?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

That's why I hired her, it's long hours being a wood handler

[–] MumboJumbo 119 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I think those short bed trucks are the absolute worst. If you genuinely need a truck, get one with a proper bed so you can use it for it's utilitarian purpose. If you've got a short ass bed, you don't need a truck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

While my truck does have a short bed, it pulls my 24,000lbs/11,000Kg tandem axle tilt bed trailer just fine. Which is more important to me than hauling groceries or people with it.

Plus the 4-wheel drive matters a lot when the roads have 6+ in/15cm of snow and it's only 2 miles/1.7 nautical miles to the nearest paved and perhaps plowed road or when I need to drive down a logging road.

***The metric and navel conversion of measurements was done for those people living in Lubbock Tx.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The one in ten that actually uses a truck for truck stuff and not a mallcruiser.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The nearest mall is a mere 50 miles away and I never go there. And yet I get painted with the same "fuck pickup trucks" brush right along with those that buy them as a mall cruiser.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Quick stats check and less than 30% of truck owners use their truck for truck things, more than 30% don’t at all, and the rest might once in a while. So 60%-ish plus basically use a truck as a daily driver and not for hauling, work, or towing.

You are in the minority.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I am in that minority, 1/3 is a pretty large minority. That's a pretty wide brush to paint with don't you think?

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 0 points 5 days ago

Not my stats. I didn’t paint anything.

[–] jadedwench 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok. Explain the Lubbock joke. I grew up in Odessa, but Lubbock had Orlandos with their delicious rum cake and the science museum. That was really the only reason for me to go over there and deal with driving through fucking Andrews County with all the drunks on the road. The only thing I miss from Texas is the food and sky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Lubbock is considered one of the most conservative cities in Texas. And the unit conversions from US Freedom Units are an indirect poke at their conservative values. I often do the same for smug metric system using liberals-- see the US miles to nautical miles conversion rather than kilometers.

Remember kiddies: All measurement systems are made up scales by some random dude that thought it was a good idea at the time. No one of them is better than another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Makes sense for filling with people imho

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People who buy these things don't really want "a truck"

They want a vehicle which aesthetically resembles a truck, so their super manly male man ego can be satisfied, but which is actually just an SUV with extra steps.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Short beds and unibody designs are the worst fucking things to happen to trucks

If you need a truck - and as a rural tradesperson, there are plenty of good reasons to need one - get something that'll actually do the job.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Rural tradepeople in Europe rarely have trucks. Vans do the job in the vast majority of cases, a trailer can complement when needed.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention a van has the benefit of keeping the load dry

Which depending on what you do and where can be very important

[–] FireRetardant 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They also keep dirt and road dust off your tools and materials. Vans also conceal your cargo better than a bed which can prevent theft. Most vans are more fuel efficient than similar sized trucks. Vans are usually easier to drive and have better visibility. A big enough van can fit a small workshop in the back, that you can stand in and assemble parts.

Vans are the better work/trade vehicles compared to trucks for most applications and that is a hill I will die on.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yea, I want 90s single cab s10 like I had in college. Full bed, no electronic bullshit. normal size tires, didn't have to climb into it. Everything I needed to haul lumber and tools around and nothing I didn't. I could take the entire thing apart and put it back together. If someone would just make a truck like that again I'd be so happy.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If I need a truck I’ll rent one from U-Haul. They’re not that expensive.

Owning a truck? That’s pretty expensive for someone like me who just needs a small car to get around. Also avoids that problem.

[–] EleventhHour 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Renting them from Home Depot is also pretty cheap

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I find if I'm going far distances, home Depot is actually better. Around town U-Haul is usually better.

Which is kinda ironic, as it's inverse to what they advertise for.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't want to scratch the paint in the bed!

[–] FireRetardant 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In this case their cargo that they claim they constantly need a truck for, doesn't even fit in the bed because the bed is half the size a bed should be.

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[–] disguy_ovahea 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s partially the manufacturers’ fault. Good luck finding an 8’ bed without an extended cab.

That’s their only option if they’re limited to the footprint of a smaller truck in their parking spot.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm dying for a return to 80s style trucks but with hybrid/electric engines

Please just let me have a functional, strong truck that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to drive

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[–] nifty 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

To load up deer I shot after a hunt.

Or I would if I hunted. Or had a truck.

Seriously though, farmers and heavy machinery contractors legit need trucks.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone is arguing that people who need a truck shouldn't get a truck. But regular people with trucks is every bit as stupid as driving around in a tractor.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Nobody who could use a truck uses a truck in Europe. Usually, a Van or something is the better choice. I don't really understand the "american pick-up truck" form factor.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Here in Germany, I see pick-up trucks more and more, and they often have some company logo on them. They never transport anything either, and the only explanation I have is that they're basically a "foreman's car", driven by people who no longer build things but want to feel like they do.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Where I live, hunters use a Lada 4x4 or a Suzuki Jimny.
Farmers use tractors.
Tradesmen use vans.
Heavy machinery contractors use flatbed trucks.

A pickup truck just seems like the worst of all worlds.

[–] FireRetardant 14 points 1 week ago

I would hate lifting a moose into a modern truck, the bed is 3-4 feet off the ground. I'd sooner put a tarp in a minivan and use that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm still seeing a few Fiat Panda 4x4 being used too.

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FIATPanda4X4-2408_3.jpg

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[–] SidewaysHighways 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mine is a smaller truck so it also has a little baby bed on the back, but it has allowed me to pickup a load of gravel and mulch. As well as haul garbage to the dump.

But I'm not 10 feet off the ground with huge tires or blinding headlights, and nobody can hear me driving down the road.

Just a little old Nissan to do the occasional dirty work

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

at least he's hauling something unlike 99% of emotional support vehicle owners

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"warlock" LOL i can't believe the shit people look at and say oOoOoOhHhH i want that!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

To haul one gallon of cat litter and a La Croix /s

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