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It would be really really awful if we started flooding the tip hotlines with false/conflicting information
You can flood it with names of people whose coverage was denied and call it motive. No false information needed.
But that would be illegal!
Just go to any health forum, find random usernames complaining about the company and call it as a tip. Not wrong, just dumb
Yeah, but I’m in another country. If I called in tips from Canada that are false is that still illegal?
Yes, the FBI would likely know that it's coming from Canada and could get the RCMP involved.
This is only discussing the legality and not the ethics of it though.
Man why do Americas problems always have to be Canada’s problems too? Like why does the FBI have to be MY problem, that’s your guys mess. :(
You say that while suggesting you would interfere in an investigation in the US.
Cause the rich in every country want the gestapo to keep everyone in line everywhere, so they make sure the fascist enforcement arms can work together easily.
In this case you should be blaming your politicians and the RCMP, not the FBI. The FBI can't come to your country and do shit to you without your country's permission.
Remember that the rich do not have patriotism, or a sense of responsibility to society or their community. They are above all that. Until we bring them back down to earth. Or under it.
“Bring them down to earth. Or under it.” That’s a fantastic quote. Did you think of that yourself or is that from something?
From the mind of yours truly. Sounded good while I was writing the post.
Hell yeah
Not passing moral judgment, but if you commit a crime in a country other than yours, that country's authorities will be after you. For a change, this isn't the US being the US
TYL: the US has always been everyone else's problem — and our own.
Not discussing anything else, but you're talking about inserting yourself into the FBI's business, so of course they're going to insert themselves into yours too.
No, really. Don't encourage people to commit stupid crimes that could send them to prison.
I don't know the legality of feeding them useless, but true tips. This is your own risk.
I absolutely do know the legality of lying to the FBI. Don't do this. Don't encourage people to do this.
I'm spartacus.
There's nothing illegal about going to the lookalike contest today at 1.
"Let's open the closet to see how many people are celebrating this CEO getting shot, surely it can't be that many"
The closet in question:
I always die like three seconds into that dungeon. I think there’s a spell I have to cast, or something I don’t have yet.
Great use of a fireball/meteor swarm if you have it though.
"We're not responsible, the algorithm did it."
We're not responsible, the bullet did it.
How in God's name could that be "bigotry"
An astonishing number of people can't distinguish "hatred based on target's intrinsic, immutable features" from "hatred based on target's opinions."
Almost like there are a ton of bad-faith actors out there intentionally muddying the waters, isn't it?
Muddying*
Yeah that was autocorrect for some reason
It can possibly be seen as bigotry against the patients that have received denial of coverage, but even that is a stretch.
Some fuckwits would actually argue this I guarantee it.
It's what they do.
To be fair, the title might have been a tad more sarcastic than people might first think :)
Because greedy scumbag CEOs are a minority class?
I hadn't heard that algorithmic health care decisions had been ruled illegal. If the company were doing that, couldn't they be considered a criminal enterprise?
Presumably they stopped doing it in those states, or it's being appealed or something.
Also possible they're just ignoring a court order, I suppose, but that seems unlikely
They definitely made an exception for those states. The same thing happened with the announcement of that Blue Cross branch that was going to stop paying for anesthesia after an arbitrary time limit. They made an exception for Connecticut because they passed a law making it illegal.
Given how businesses work they probably didn't stop doing it they probably just toned it down a little bit. Like instead of "deny 50% of coverage by default" they set it to like "deny 43%".
As long as it flies under the radar right?
Only ruled illegal in a couple of states. And no, doing some illegal things doesn't make you (under the law) a criminal enterprise. That's a term used for operations whose fundamental business is crime, as opposed to just employing some illegal methods in the pursuit of legal activities.
(This is not, remotely, an argument against much, much stronger penalties for companies that do illegal shit. If the fine is less than the profit then its just a cost of doing business).
I knew it was a fantasy when I wrote it. I mean, obviously they pay more for lawyers than anything else.
Just amazing how far they can stretch the law without it snapping back on them.
... for operations whose fundamental business is crime
Oh, so, insurance companies are "criminal enterpriseS", plural. Gotcha.
You can do deeply unethical things that are legal, such as delay deny defend. If only insurance stopped there it would be a great improvement. It's more likely they cross the line of what's legal as long as there's a chance of profit, even when penalties apply.
~~If the company were doing that,~~ couldn't they be considered a criminal enterprise?
Was the guy having an aneurysm while writing this?
Perhaps due the lack of medical care.