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[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago
  1. People are busy with more important things than social media, YouTube’s, podcasts, and news.

  2. People will vote with their communities to retain membership: MAGA, church, the family unit (sometimes).

  3. it’s not uncommon for 60% of people not to vote.

  4. Kamala didn’t distance herself from Biden. “They’re isn’t anything that comes to mind” was a coffin nail.

  5. DEMs don’t sell it well. The story told has to be big enough and potent enough to pull in 1, 2, & 3.

  6. What is the point of beating this dead horse? It solves nothing.

[–] naught101 7 points 18 hours ago

Both can be true

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fault is on everyone

  • Non-voters and trump voters

  • russian propagandists

  • "useful idiots" telling people to not vote harris for perceived evil

  • democratic leadership for not having a better platform

  • Kamala Harris, who just cant stop getting pulled towards cheneys like a magnet

  • Joe "I don't wanna quit yet, even tho I'm old as fuck" Biden

  • republicans, who just want to destroy democracy

Everyone is at fault

[–] PugJesus 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Miserable, isn't it?

People want one easy foe to blame, and to exonerate all other forces. Tribal mentality. Absurd from a supposedly educated modern population, but here we are.

Nearly everyone who had a serious hand in this election is guilty for this fucking debacle. Some by action, some by inaction; some by malice, some by incompetence, some by ignorance, some by sheer fucking stupidity.

What a fucking shitshow this all was. And will be for the foreseeable future.

[–] JigglySackles 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The denial of some assholes on here go through is incredible. They won't hold anyone accountable for their vote. Like who the fucks voting? The DNC isn't voting. No group is voting vicariously for anyone. No one is mandating you vote. People vote. And many people let themselves be misled, and shirked all personal responsibility to understand who is leading the country and why and how. The half that voted for that orange asshole fucking deserve what's coming to this country. I fucking hate it here.

[–] TrickDacy 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Democrat bad. That only thing matter

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[–] mlg 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Pug its only been a month

Go back to sleep and enjoy the last month of Biden doing fuck all about any of the core problems that Trump is about to expand a thousand times.

This meme even contradicts itself. If its already known there's a limit to reason, why didn't the Democrats utilize this like the Republicans did? Obama lied about a ton of crap to get votes and everyone was still happy. All of a sudden the DNC has moral compass that prevents them from properly pandering to voters but full send genocide is worth losing all three branches of the federal government over.

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[–] splonglo 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

1 ) public ignorance is a widespread social force not a personal character fault that happens to individually affect the majority of the population.

2 ) This attitude of moral contempt is actively repellent to the people we need to reach out to, who do not subscribe to your premise. A lot of people don't think they are fascists - they are wrong, but they'll still look at you funny unless you can do a damn good job of making the argument. The Dems couldn't, the media couldn't, and nobody is watching it anyway. WE have to do it. Make better arguments and reach out to people instead of circlejerking and making our opponents arguments for them.

[–] PugJesus 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

PROTIP: Dems being spineless, brainless cretins does NOT absolve anyone who said that sitting by and letting fascists take over the country was preferable! And yes, you CAN blame the voters for that!

The voters did not magically come to the 'correct' decision to sit this out by the spirit of democracy whispering in their ear; they did so because they believed that fascism won't be 'that bad' to them, personally! And no amount of blaming Dems for being gutless corporate weasels can change that being an accomplice to deliberately driving fascists deeper into power is not a forgivable offense!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

PROTIP: Dems being spineless, brainless cretins does NOT absolve anyone who said that sitting by and letting fascists take over the country was preferable! And yes, you CAN blame the voters for that!

I realize how old-man-ish this will sound (although in my defense I am literally becoming an old man) but there's a widespread lack of personal accountability these days. Everything must always be someone else's fault.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

There is something wrong and I'm not sure it's personal accountability. It may be my mental illness or just my antisocial behavior but I've never been able to ignore the broader issues with the world.

I'm not saying mental illness has distorted reality or something. I'm saying because I don't function like everyone else everything seems inadequate for me.

I'm also not saying it's good to be antisocial I'm saying I feel severe anxiety and dread after the simplest of human interaction and it exceedingly more difficult to manage as I get older. So there is no group think I am comfortable subscribing to because the group freaks me the fuck out.

What ever the cause I have this lense that seems to just be non-existent for most people. There could be a economic aspect to it but I do pretty well comparatively. The only difference between someone my age and myself is I might have less of a savings but my income is acceptable. I don't have family support but I think generational wealth is few and far between. That could be wrong if you're accounting for my demographic but it could also be skewed depending on where you live.

All this to say, some people are completely unconcerned with the condition of society. They are happy pretending everyone is like themselves where what is happening in government or around the world will never effect them personally. I do not share this view. Maybe it's because I don't have the dopamine to sustain the positive feelings that Bob Marleys "don't worry, be happy" song represents but if we look at this election, they need my lense and their perspective can be thrown in the ocean.

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[–] PugJesus 20 points 1 day ago

It's an ancient problem. But it's always frustrating to see it.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

As a Brit I'm not immersed in American politics day to day. My (unqualified) take from a million miles away went:

"Oh, Joe Biden got elected thank god"

"Oh, he's promising to only serve one term, good that's completely sensible"

"Joe's running again? What? Could they not find anyone better? This isn't going to go well at all..."

"(during that debate) Oh well, looks like Trump's going to win.."

"Hey, Kamala looks like she would have won if this had been the plan from the beginning, not a sudden fumble when Biden's brain melted beyond repair on live TV.."

Seems like - from my point of view- the main culprit was hubris on Biden's part ever attempting a second term. And the inexplicable failure of the whole party to not force him out of that self destructive choice. Other candidates besides Kamala likely could have won, just seemed like any Dem candidate would be fatally undermined by starting a late campaign.

[–] Maggoty 4 points 18 hours ago

Well you see the Democrats are a gerontocracy and if they pushed him out then they could do the same to someone like Pelosi. Don't you know it's their god given right to die in office after years of going senile on live TV?

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