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    [–] vinyl 2 points 3 hours ago

    For a sec i read "her cat" as "her clit"

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    Actually, OneDrive works great on Mac.

    Or it did in 2021 when I finished school. I stopped using it when my tuition stopped paying for it.

    No annoying pop-ups on Mac OS, just a folder that would sync automatically. I could drop school work through the browser and it would be on my drive by the time I got home.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

    The only people not on the meme are the IT procurement people at my work

    share point, one drive, dynamics, office 365, teams.

    They're all ganged up with their swords pointed at me just trying to do some work.

    Together they've managed unseated oracle as the arch nematode, even thogh none of them actually do anything that i need - apart from maybe filing cabinet.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    The part that bothers me the most about OneDrive is that it redirects the users Documents/Downloads/etc folders to its own entirely breaking stuff (and making it painfully difficult to find where files went because either it's in Documents or Documents which are entirely different directories on the hard drive of course. This is particularly agregious given Microsoft already has a really well-made shadowcopy/file history solution which lets you restore files or grab old versions of files straight from the right-click menu. So if OneDrive was simply an optional filehistory endpoint it would be far less reviled. Instead they do this ass backwards redirect that kinda works but makes a mess of things once software not made by companies named Microsoft enters the picture.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    I gave up trying to save things where i wanted and just let word/excel/ppt save them to onedrive

    It's just my work computer. I have no energy to fight with microsoft at work

    I just go home to my warm comfy linux boxes when i get home

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

    I do the same. My work buys Microsoft everything so it makes far more sense to use Microsoft everything at work and give it its best chance at selling me on the Microsoft ecosystem. Let's just say cost isn't the only reason I don't run Microsoft anything on my own hardware

    [–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    For IT purposes, i fuckin' love it. Forced sync of Desktop and Documents folders for users, all the email is server-side. no more bitching about data loss. "Did you use one drive like you said you would when you clicked "OK" to that user agreement?"

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Exactly. It's very useful in a managed environment. It's performance overheads suck though.Way too much CPU usage.

    But it should not be part of Windows, only office 365 or as an optional 3rd party service.

    Same story with icloud on Apple and Google Drive on Android.

    No free version of a paid cloud service should be included in any OS. It should require a separate opt-in sign up. Have we not learnt anything from the Microsoft antitrust cases.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

    Absolutely. The average consumer device shouldn't have any kind of internet dependancies baked into the OS, IMO. It should always be installed/enabled separately. There's still vast swathes of the US that don't have reliable internet.

    [–] dejected_warp_core 34 points 1 day ago

    In a professional context (e.g. work/office), O365 and related technologies make a lot of sense. It solves all kinds of real problems, especially for a remote/hybrid workforce. It's by no means the best answer for any one application, but it's a very comprehensive platform and gets the job done.

    For the home user? Constantly forcing OneDrive into everyone's field of view on OS upgrades is intrusive advertising for a thing nobody asked for.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    My favourite part is when you log into your work PC, and a bunch of things you deleted 6 months ago have re-appeared on your desktop.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

    "Duplicate of _____"

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    My favorite part was when my laptop charger crapped out yesterday, and instead of syncing the super important files that I was working in, and I needed today, onedrive crashed... Piece of shit software

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    [–] TrickDacy 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Dropbox would've accomplished the same shit without being half as shitty.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

    I'd normally agree, but keeping it tied to AD is nice, and data exfiltration is a major enough concern for my environment that third-party cloud storage is thoroughly blocked.

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    [–] trespasser69 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Was there any spyware/telemetry found in red star OS?

    I remember a good few years back finding a leaked image for it and having some fun with it ended up throwing it on an open Gdrive link, then a few years later someone leaked a more up to date version that tried to look like macOS.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The last information i found is from 2015 (the one that looks like MacOS). There are no direct backdoors on the installation medium, although it is trivial to deliver one with software updates since the repositories are under state control. What has been found is a mechanism that attached the hardware id of the pc to any file that is opened, allowing to trace through which hands a file has gone. there was also an "anti-virus" that is a censoring mechanism, deleting files with predefined content.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

    Wasn't there also a "kill-switch" that reported to the government when you tried to tinker with the OS too much or something?

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    [–] ConstantPain 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Teams is bad until you have to use Amazon chime and work docs.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    1. Fuck those things.
    2. The main problem with them is not just the software, which is awful, but that it means you're working at Amazon.
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

    I'm lucky enough to be working with rather than for, but it does mean interacting with their crappy programs and work culture. Going back to using teams is a relief.

    [–] jadedwench 4 points 1 day ago

    I know right! I had the unfortunate experience of using it for a while and I have no idea how Amazon employees manage to communicate at all. It was an utter mess and looked like it came out of the 2000s.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I think OneDrive is just fine.

    I primarily use it for my Windows PCs, I have it installed on my Macs. Rarely need anything in there from Linux, but it’s nice to be able to pop in from a browser and grab something.

    I work in an IT Support role for a lot of users, and I think that OneDrive is the ideal backup for the average Windows user / basic consumer. It covers the folders that most people care about, offers versioning of files, and even ensures that I’m not needed when they transition to a new device even if their previous device does not turn on anymore.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Well, I do believe there are used for it. But it is very annoying when Microsoft keeps throwing it into my face time after time. I don't want it, I don't need it, and yet it will always automatically start after an update. For that bullshit alone I already hate it so much I will never use it.

    One of the many reasons I'm on Linux now.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

    I haven’t found that it comes back on its own after being uninstalled but I also deliberately have it on all my daily drivers, so it’s possible that’s happening with the annual feature updates.

    In notification settings, there are two options that use the “welcome experience” and “tips / tricks” language - disabling those does away with a lot of the fullscreen subscription solicitations.

    A lot of average users do benefit from being asked to opt in once or twice, but I agree there ought to be a more accessible “no thanks, never ask me again” option for power users.

    I also wish that stuff was scaled back or stripped out of the professional editions of Windows, LTSC editions don’t have it but the license requirements don’t make that a particularly accessible option.

    Linux is definitely the right move, it brings me great joy to see more and more folks discovering that as an option that is bot only viable, but also better. I hope to see Windows 10’s EOL become “the great Linuxing”

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    OneDrive does exist on macOS.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    I found the one guy who likes OneDrive. He really advocated for its use during our last meeting with the others of the media team I'm in. I can't stand the tool, as it keeps demanding I pay the microsoft tax

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    What were his arguments for it's "greatness"?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Probably the fact that you can collaboratively work on the same documents as other users. Or that syncing files to local devices is pretty easy and straightforward. Sharing is also dead easy. From an IT perspective, file retention and versioning is a game changer. I just restored a computer that an angry user attempted to delete all files from when they had been fired because all the data was backed up to OneDrive. I think people just hate OneDrive because it's often advertised. I think very few people who actually make full use of it, actually hate it.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Lol why exactly we all hate one drive? I forgor, never used it actually.

    [–] Blue_Morpho 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    If you don't know, you either haven't run Win 11 or don't realize the files on your desktop have been uploaded to OneDrive.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Wait files get uplaoded to OneDrive?? I always delete the onedrive whenever installing windows (in a vm btw) bruh

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    In my case my partner has a Windows 10 surface laptop. It's perfectly functional and does what she needs it to do, but Windows 10 is dying next year, so I need to find some solution that is user friendly (meaning GUI-based in this case) to maintain her access to her OneDrive, or we throw away a perfectly good laptop to buy a slightly newer one. Besides the e-waste it's just a waste of money. It makes some business sense, why make it easy to move away from windows? Except it also sucks on anything that isn't a windows desktop, so they just expect people to put up with a subpar service essentially because their business users don't have much choice. Dropbox was better 10 years ago than OneDrive is now, in terms of platform availability and usability.

    Note: I'm aware we can access OneDrive and office via a browser, however it's not the same as native and feels clunky. Throwing Linux on it and using a browser is probably going to be our solution if I can't get rclone to work in a way she'll be happy with.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

    There was quite a bit of initial config to do, but there is Linux OneDrive Client, and OneDriveGUI

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    [–] TrickDacy 8 points 1 day ago

    Mostly because it constantly forces itself on you and is difficult to disable or remove even if you take several minutes to attempt to get rid of it. Every fucking time you try to save a file in office it defaults to save to one drive, or at least that was the case for a time.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Ah yes, the memories of not being able to put stuff in my documents because "onedrive is out of space" which is when I figured out what onedrive was

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I use a Mac for work and I’m saddened to say I do have to use OneDrive, and that it unsurprisingly sucks absolute ass.

    [–] Masta_Chief 1 points 19 hours ago

    https://youtu.be/xzbPJ9_CoZ8?si=aPLOTj0J4fcqnPim

    James Lee making some more cathartic content

    [–] jaybone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    This meme was just making the rounds on Lemmy like a week ago

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

    If I haven't seen it, it's new to me!

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    So what would be better alternatives? I do not plan to self-host.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    You could e.g. subscribe to a fully managed Nextcloud.

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