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President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[–] mhague 21 points 1 day ago

Republicans seemed to have successfully done a false equivalency. They lied about witch hunts and then did one, and then when the president swatted it away people reacted with, "Oh, they're both the same."

Trump pardons traitors, insurrectionists, Nazis. A witch hunt victim is in the same league, because family I guess. Not like that was the reason for the witch hunt or anything!

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 23 hours ago

Trump'll pardon all the Jan 6'ers in jail when he gets into office. Actual insurrectionist criminals.

[–] FanciestPants 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers."

Both things are true though. The pardon power exists as a check on the judicial branch, so it certainly undermines it in the same way that the veto undermines legislative decisions by congress. The constitution gives the president the authority to do some pretty blatant undermining, but checks work in the other direction too if the branches are acting as co-equals and not just shilling for one of the others.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It undermines what we liberals value: playing by the rules without exploiting them for our own selfish benefit. Yeah, the rule is that you can do this as POTUS, but it looks bad, and can be selfish or self-serving the way trump does it. His way is straight up corrupt. We don't want to be like that. It separates us from them. So even if this saves HB from further persecution by the Talibangelicals, it still feels like we collectively get mud on us when Biden pulls the same stunt trump does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

So even if this saves HB from further persecution by the Talibangelicals

I know right? Man who is soon to no longer be politically relevant had to make his son who is only politically relevant because of the father immune to prosecution for any and all crimes he may or may not have done over the last decade to prevent the GOP from using him to politically attack his father who will no longer be politically relevant at the same moment they gain the ability to hypothetically start the process to do so.

It's just blatantly corrupt in the same way (but not the same scale) as what we all expect Trump to do. This is Biden getting to be a little blatantly corrupt, as a treat.

[–] DarkFuture 98 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Lol.

Most of these comments are a great example of how stupid Americans are.

All my life Dems have been held to a higher standard. I've watched them take the high road so many times while the Republicans went low. Continued to honor decorum when Republicans refused.

And guess what happened?

Americans told them to go fuck themselves and voted for blatant Republican corruption instead.

And now there's a bunch of comments in here whining about how Democrats are corrupt for doing this.

Go fuck yourselves. Clowns.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile one of the many cronies Trump pardoned was Charles Kushner, who Trump also wants to give an ambassadorship to France. If Republicans didn't have double standards they would have none at all.

[–] DarkFuture 7 points 1 day ago

Yup. He pardoned Roger Stone too.

And Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon.

And these losers are crying about Biden pardoning his son after Trump explicitly stated he would go after his political opponents if he won.

Literal clowns with clown noses.

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[–] Treczoks 43 points 1 day ago (8 children)

That pardon smells fishy, but I can understand that he does not want to leave his son exposed to imprisonment under Trump. Donald has shown time and again that he has no problems in going after weak persons to extract petty revenge.

[–] btaf45 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I knew all along that Biden was going to pardon his son after the election. It doesn't surprise or bother me. The firearms charge he was charged with was something that likely wouldn't have been prosecuted if he was a regular person. I thought the tax evasion charge was much more serious but he wasn't charged on that.

[–] moktor 2 points 1 day ago

He was charged on the tax evasion charges. He plead guilty in September and was due to be sentenced on Dec 16th.

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[–] Tudsamfa 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We take the high road" mfers when the low road people go after his son:

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[–] ramenshaman 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not surprised and I don't really care. Last time I checked the charges against him were kinda bullshit and it was clear to me that red team was pushing for him to face charges out of spite. It's funny to see Trump get mad about it though, he would have pardoned his own kid a long time ago if he were in that position. Well, maybe not Eric, but definitely Don Jr, Ivanka, or maybe the other ones.

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[–] Furbag 70 points 2 days ago (43 children)

I'm not happy about this. Not one bit. Just like how I wouldn't have been happy to hear about Trump pardoning one of his own kids for breaking the law. As a matter of fact, I'm furious reading some of the comments in this thread.

It shocks me to see people defending this. We fought against the Republicans to prevent misuse of executive powers exactly like this. How the fuck can you sit there and rationalize this while saying it's wrong for Trump to pardon the Jan 6th insurrectionists? or himself for that matter?

This is a black stain on Biden's presidential legacy. It's shit like this that puts wind in the sails of all the crazy Republican conspiracy theorists out there. Now, every single motherfucker who ranted and raved about the "Biden Crime Family" since 2020 was just proven right, just like how all the people who said that Trump's convictions were politically motivated were proven right when Jack Smith dropped the charges. It makes us look like fucking morons and hypocrites.

No, before anyone says it, it is not smart to stoop to their level when basically the only messaging we sent out during the entire 2024 campaign was that we were the morally superior choice. That someone who doesn't respect the rule of law has no business being president. Now, we don't even have that to lean on.

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