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Yeah now I start to understand why people go mad over nvidias pricing I mean the 4090 costs like what 1500, 2000 bucks? Meanwhile the 6100 cheaper than the shipping cost y'all're getting ripped off —shitpost
Just don't rent one from NZXT.
I saw a video on Gamers Nexus about how shitty a company they are. Hopefully word spreads amongst gamers & builders that they're no good and they should be avoided.
What's the deal with them? Only NZXT component i've had is my current case, which has awful airflow (old model of H710 I think, bought 5 ish years ago).
Apparently they very recently got acquired or invested in and are probably looking to increase profits tenfold in under a year so the company can be dumped before it all crashes.
Apparently their PC rental program is a worse value than illegal loans that are likely mafia-backed.
Power consumption is part of the equation now too. You'll often see newer generation hardware that has comparable performance to a last gen model but is a lot more power efficient.
Or you'll see something equally efficient and equally performing at the same power levels..except you'll see newer gens or upgraded skus allowed to pull more power
Thousand times this. For actual builders that care about the nuance it all probably makes sense but then there is me over here looking at pre-builts wondering why the fuck are two seemingly identical machines have a $500 difference between them.
I'm spending so much time pouring through spec sheets to find "oh the non-z version discombobulator means this cheaper one is gonna be trash in three years when I can afford to upgrade to a 6megadong tri-actor unit".
I'm in this weird state of to cheap to buy a Mac and can't be arsed to build my own.
Meanwhile the data i care about, efficiency, is not readily availlable. I'm not gonna put a 350 watt GPU in the 10 liter case if i can have the same power for 250 watt.
At least TomsHardware now includes efficiency in tests for newer cards.
GamersNexus has start add efficiency score in frame / joule. Also have full writeup of video on website.
Tell me about it. The numbers that I'm interested in - "decibels under full load", "temperature at full load" - might as well not exist. Will I be able to hear myself think when I'm using this component for work? Will this GPU cook all of my hard drives, or can it vent the heat out the back sufficiently?
Temperature is meaningless unless you want oc headroom. A watt into your room is the same no matter the temp the part runs at.
That's not correct, I'm afraid.
Thermal expansion is proportional to temperature; it's quite significant for ye olde spinning rust hard drives but the mechanical stress affects all parts in a system. Especially for a gaming machine that's not run 24/7 - it will experience thermal cycling. Mechanical strength also decreases with increasing temperature, making it worse.
Second law of thermodynamics is that heat only moves spontaneously from hotter to colder. A 60° bath can melt more ice than a 90° cup of coffee - it contains more heat - but it can't raise the temperature of anything above 60°, which the coffee could. A 350W graphics card at 20° couldn't raise your room above that temperature, but a 350W graphics card at 90° could do so. (The "runs colder" card would presumably have big fans to move the heat away.)
That is fundamentally not how PC cooling works. Each part is a closed system, with the PC an open system so long as you have fans. The heat sink temp over ambient could be what you are looking for, but that still would not work that way if you are looking at hot spot temps. If you tried to run a thread ripper at 500W in a closed space the air temp would end up hotter than than a 350W Graphics card. But the CPU if not throttling would have a temp over ambient of about 30c and the gpu core would be about 45c over ambient. The effect on your room will be that the 500W cpu raises the ambient temp more than the 350W gpu over the same period of time. The air in your room is what is cooling the components. Air at a given humidity has a specific heat capacity and will be your limiting factor. With your bath example you would need to have a much larger capacity of 60c water to melt the ice since the specific heat of water doesn't change when a liquid.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1st law of thermodynamics and what a "system" is as relating to the 2nd.
For your HDD you want them to run 45-60c. running them colder will impact their life span. The drive will try to heat up if under 30c to prevent damage.
I wish this was data was more available. I got a GPU upgrade 6800xt and it's so loud. I can't enjoy sitting at my desk without hearing a loud whine and a bunch of other annoying noises. Its probably because the card is 2nd hand but still.
Maybe not cuz I have first hand 7900xtx and if I load it up it whines horribly lol.
Just go here and check the charts for the kind of work you want the PC to do. If one looks promising you can check specific reviews on YouTube.
For gaming the absolute best cpu/gpu combo currently is the 9800x3d and a rtx 4090, if you don't have a budget.
Yes the part naming is confusing but it's intentional.
It's funny that you wrote the wrong GPU name while agreeing that the naming is confusing.
Gamer's Nexus
Yes the part naming is confusing but it's intentional
Yes, that's what people are upset about.
R*TX 4090
Intel used to have decent naming...
I occasionally "refresh" my PC with new board, CPU etc. I never buy the top of the line stuff and quite honestly there is little reason to. Games are designed to play perfectly well on mid range computers even if you have to turn off some graphics option that enables some slight improvement in the image quality.
For very broad definitions of “convention”
And it sucks! Sorry, I mean it SUX.
I recently had to go through this maze. I hate it. And I'm glad that my PCs tend to live ~10y, this means that I'm not doing it again in the foreseeable future.