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The 19-year veteran teacher was let go based on social media posts on her personal account from a drag performance at Houston's Hamburger Mary's.

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[–] Blamemeta 49 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Taught at "First Baptist Academy"

Went to a gay bay to see a drag performance and posted it on social media.

Wtf did she expect? Best case scenario, they don't notice.

[–] FlyingSquid 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing Texas is an at-will state, but just going to a show of any kind in your private time should not be a firing offense no matter where you work. I don't care if you work for the Southern Poverty Law Center and go see a minstrel show on Saturday. You're doing it on your private time.

[–] chiliedogg 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Religious institutions have a little more freedom in certain areas regarding who they can hire and fire depending on their job duties.

For instance, a preacher for a Baptist church can be required to be Christian as a condition of their employment. But they can't fire a janitor for religious reasons because their faith has no impact on the work they perform.

For teachers, they probably have a policy regarding public support of the church and its doctrines that was violated when the teacher posted about attending a drag show.

It's stupid, but it's legal.

I have similar restrictions at my job in municipal government. I'm not allowed to get involved in local politics or advocate for or against candidates openly. As a public official, I'm always at least somewhat on duty.

Hell, I have to be careful about what I text, because my personal phone is subject to Open Records requests.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think it's much simpler than that. Texas has been an at-will employment state since the 1800s. As long as it doesn't violate civil rights, you can be fired for pretty much any reason in Texas. They can fire you because they don't like your face.

[–] chiliedogg 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Absolutely, but for religious institutions they can even ignore civil rights in some instances. You can be fired for religious reasons, which is usually a big no-no.

And at-will isn't just a Texas thing. All 50 states and DC are at-will employment.

[–] Voiden 2 points 11 months ago

With the exception of Montana after a 12 month probation period

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

As long as the thing they don't like about your face isn't it's color. But seriously American employment laws (in most states) allow for companies to fire people for any non-protected reason (protected reason = gender, race, age, etc). If a co.pany does illegally fire a person it can be a real up hill battle to prove it because at-will is so permissive.

I can't say a firing like this one sits super well with me personally but it's almost certainly legal.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but in your position it kinda makes sense. I don't think career civil servants should be out there with even the hint of their office support endorsing candidates.

Kinda interesting however that you are following strong ethical rules than all these powerful people above you.

[–] chiliedogg 3 points 11 months ago

Most civil employees stick hard and fast to their rules regarding politicization with a giant exception for police who get away with (sometimes literal) murder.

Politicians are expressly political. The difference is that politicians can be voted out of office by the public. I cannot be directly voted away. Even City Council or the mayor cannot directly fire me - the only staff members they have direct hire/fire authority over are the City Manager and the Municipal Judge.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Seriously, though, are people still pretending Christian organizations are filled with decent human beings? You can just point to the majority of western history as an example of the kind of people running these orgs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What did she expect? She expected to see a great show. Do you go through life worrying about Big Brother watching over your shoulder?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, she has a 19 year history with the school, she deserves better than this. Shame on the school.

That’s like randomly firing employees for eating lunch at Jersey Mikes because Subway is a new sponsor of the employer.

Or getting fired because you went to a Widespread Panic show & your boss happens to be a Phish fan.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree 4 points 11 months ago

If its not on LinkedIn, who gives a flying fuck. Why are some people not allowed to share their personal lives on their personal social media pages?

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think this even qualifies as news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I think it does, if readers think that this kind of thing isn't still happening in some places.

[–] LEDZeppelin 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Their first mistake is being a teacher in Texas

[–] TheBat 0 points 11 months ago

And second mistake is being in Texas?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their first mistake was being an American.

[–] Zuberi 4 points 11 months ago

Sadly there are millions of us that didn't choose this option.

You do understand that teaching (as an adult) if different than being born into a country without the ability (or money) to leave?

[–] Professorozone -5 points 11 months ago

Better off without them.