click 'no'.
reconfigure.
set dimensions: 50000x50000
DO IT
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Training takes more resources.
Querying takes less resources.
Do I get to choose the city?
If we all collaborate we can shut down Florida at all times.
I would object, but I'm on vacation right now. It won't affect me for a week. Generate as much as you can!
Training the models is very resource intensive, but after that it's basically fine. I can run Midjourney image generation on my modest gaming laptop. Takes maybe 30 seconds for a high-resolution image at a laptop's "gaming mode" power consumption.
AI image generation is comparable in electric use to e.g. playing Valheim or Elden Ring.
It's when it's scaled up industrially that it becomes a huge waste of electricity. Me playing Valhelm for 5 minutes is nothing. My startup creating 20000 bots playing Valheim 24/7 is a problem for society.
It's the mining of diamonds that kills all the children. After the diamond is mined, I can use it with almost no child deaths. Diamonds are fine.
No, using an already-trained model doesn’t “use up” the model in exactly the same way that pirating a movie doesn’t steal anything from Hollywood.
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I mean yeah: if we went and killed every person who benefits from conflict diamonds and closed all blood diamond mines why wouldn't you be cool with using the resources? Their evil origin has little to do with their practical utility and if the original sin is expiated there's no reason not to?
Like yeah conflict diamonds have basically no purpose because we can make diamonds cheaper and better in labs but in a situation where there are more practical uses (cobalt, LLMs) once we cleanse the land of the sinners why wouldn't we use their ill gotten gains for good?
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Yeah. My phone can generate a 512x512 image with Stable Diffusion in like 20 seconds with the right settings.
Is Midjourney available for use locally now? Or have you misunderstood Midjourney taking 30 seconds to generate from their server as happening locally?
I know a guy that uses Stable Diffusion XL locally with a few LORAs, last time I've heard one 2k image took 2 minutes on RTX 30 or 40 something
IDK how expensive is Midjourney in comparison, but running it locally doesn't sound impossible
The impossible part is that it isn't publicly available. It's not an open model.
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This is such a stupid take, the author is either a lemming or doesn't understand how resources and commodities work
If you don't explain why you hold this opinion your comment is wasted.
A small city usually requires one gigawatt continuous power. 10 minutes of power is equal to 100k kWh.
A 200x200 GenAI image takes about 2 seconds on an RTX 3060 running at 170W. That 2 seconds of power is equal to 0.000094 kWh.
The meme is off by a factor of 1,063,829,787.
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because people just make shit up and post it on the internet, and other people content with making shit up and posting it on the internet go "wow good post"
and then nobody bothers fact checking anything ever.
like i understand the anti AI sentiment, but please do yourself a favor and use actually good arguments against it, not stupid arguments that make you look incompetent and silly.
Also it's not a small city, merely a village. Not even a very nice one.
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are there any studies or data on the actual consumption of electricity that AI uses? I know that training consumes a lot, but if the usage of it doesn't consume much, it doesn't really matter since it's a one time cost.
I don't know of any studies unfortunately, but I did want to point out that training is not quite a one time cost in practice, because training has already been done loads times and is still being done! I'm theory, if we stopped training all AI and just kept the ones we have, then indeed the training cost would be bounded just like you say, I'm just afraid we're quite far from that.
this is true, but this is always going to lead to a different AI and a different product eventually, it's not like it's going to be sustained entirely by the whims of chatgpt 3.5 for example.
FWIW I’ve generated ai images using a solar panel the size of an iPhone as the power source.
The training was the cost.
The data was connected by wire but powered externally, which I argued was cheating but I guess not idk I just work here
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I swear 50% of Mastodon's feed is just people having mass hysteria about AI and not understanding how any of it works
Also constantly getting baited about how AI is definitely the reason global warming is happening despite, you know, waves to virtually everything running on fossil fuels
To be fair the cost benefit ratio of llms is way out of whack. It's even behind outdoor heating in bars.
It’s the same as my enjoyment of video games, 3D modeling, or video editing - my gpu spins up for a few minutes.
Lmao. But ya true, it's not fair to consider all LLM use equally.
Although I've made gpt write nonsense poem for me, most of my prompts are work related that saves me countless hours.
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Don't worry, we're not there yet. It can't even decently generate its own dialog box.
Edit: second version gave me a brain hemmorhage
it really took "box" seriously there
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Yes ...... power suddenly goes off in their house
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