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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago (18 children)

Why would an RTX 4090 make Python faster?

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don’t worry this post was written by a first year computer science student who just learned about C. No need to look too closely at it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only language worth discussing is brainfuck

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Purest of the programming languages

[–] ours 24 points 1 month ago

Joke's on you, he was talking about "Phyton". /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I bet an LLM could have written this meme without making that mistake.

Embarrassing.

[–] owenfromcanada 4 points 1 month ago

The new favorite language of AAA game studios: ~~Phyton~~ Python

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm happy if it's actually running in python and not a javascript app with electron.

[–] LANIK2000 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Idk, it's rare for an electron app to literally not even run. Meanwhile I'm yet to encounter a python app that doesn't require me to Google what specific environment the developer had and recreate it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I think with pyenv and pipenv/UV you can create pretty reliable packaging. But it's not as common as electron, so it's a pain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's fair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

With a properly packaged python app, you shouldn't even notice you're running a python app. But yeah, for some reason there's a lot of them that ... aren't.

[–] Diplomjodler3 35 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Ah yes, those precious precious CPU cycles. Why spend one hour writing a python program that runs for five minutes, if you could spend three days writing it in C++ but it would finish in five seconds. Way more efficient!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Because when it is to actually get paid work done, all the bloat adds up and that 3 days upfront could shave weeks/months of your yearly tasks. XKCD has a topic abut how much time you can spend on a problem before effort outweighs productivity gains. If the tasks are daily or hourly you can actually spend a lot of time automating for payback

And note this is one instance of task, imagine a team of people all using your code to do the task, and you get a quicker ROI or you can multiply dev time by people

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That also goes to show why to not waste 3 days to shave 2 seconds off a program that gets run once a week.

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[–] Diplomjodler3 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can write perfectly well structured and maintainable code in Python and still be more productive than in other languages.

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[–] bruhduh 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welp, microcontrollers say hi

[–] Diplomjodler3 3 points 1 month ago

Welp, I'm not saying you should use Python for everything. But for a lot of applications, developer time is the bottleneck, not computing resources.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

So, I've noticed this tendency for Python devs to compare against C/C++. I'm still trying to figure out why they have this tendency, but yeah, other/better languages are available. 🙃

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[–] Postmortal_Pop 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I know it makes me sound like an of man shouting at clouds but the other day I installed Morrowind and was genuinely blown away by how smooth and reliable it ran and all the content in the game fitting in 2gb of space. Skyrim requires I delete my other games to make room and still requires a whole second game worth of mods to match the stability and quantity of morrowind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

High res textures (especially normal maps) and higher quality/coverage audio really made game sizes take off. Unreal's new "Nanite" tech, where models can have literally billions of polygons, actually reduces game size because no normal maps.

[–] bruhduh 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Postmortal_Pop 3 points 1 month ago

That's fair, though honestly the only issue I ever had on the Xbox was having a loading screen every 5 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but also community rewrite of the Morrowind engine, to make it even more better: https://openmw.org/

Admittedly, some changes might make it use more resources, for example it's got basically no loading screens, because nearby cells get loaded before you enter them...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

"Python is bloat" wait until you look at NodeJS "node_modules" folder

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bruhduh 4 points 1 month ago

Love you homie 💋 walks away

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago
[–] vane 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Armatures, I only write software using my hammer by punching holes in steel plates.

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[–] UnfortunateShort 3 points 1 month ago

It used to be pretty terrible, but the frameworks are getting there, starting with the languages they are based on.

Believe it or not, Java has been optimized a ton and can be written to be very efficient these days. Another great example of a high-level, high-efficiency language is Julia. And then there is Rust of course, which basically only sacrifices memory-efficiency for C-speeds with Python-esque comfort. It's getting better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

plus all the spying and the "telemetry" bs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641 3 points 1 month ago

No Phyton, Jiverscrap is best.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tbh this all seems to be related to following principles like Solid or following software design patterns. There's a few articles about CUPID, SOLID performance hits, etc

  • it all suggests that following software design patterns cost about a decade of hardware progress.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Absolutely not lol.

If SOLID is causing you performance problems, it's likely completely solvable.

Most companies throwing out shitty software have engineers who couldn't tell you what SOLID is without looking it up.

Most people who use this line of reasoning don't have an actual understanding of how often patterns are applied or misapplied in the industry and why.

SOLID might be a bottle neck for software that needs to be real-time compliant with stable jitter and ultra-low latency, the vast majority of apps are just spaghetti code.

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