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[–] scripthook 11 points 15 hours ago

I use New Pipe for android and Freetube for desktop. I have all the YouTube premium features at $0 cost and no ads hehe

[–] madcaesar 9 points 15 hours ago

Don't worry, simply pay for Youtube Premium+ to get rid of ads on Premium!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'd bet that channel "members" don't get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.

IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.

While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.

So they make "memberships" to channels a thing.

Almost nobody buys that either. So they go... What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they're a channel member.

Genius.

Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.

The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

People are buying memberships though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Usually you see this for creatora like vtubers.
I like them but I will never consider memberships. At best I will sub to an actual service like floatplane or nebula

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is all conjecture right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Indeed. I have absolutely no way of knowing anything for certain.

I'm just screaming into the void from this hellscape we call Earth.

[–] Evotech 29 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago
[–] LovableSidekick 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hi, would you like to try Youtube Premium PLATINUM for only another $2.99? It's EVEN MORE ad-free! We mean it!

[–] capuccino 23 points 23 hours ago
[–] Phoenix3875 115 points 1 day ago (8 children)

u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

[–] TonyOstrich 12 points 22 hours ago

That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

[–] FooBarrington 15 points 23 hours ago

Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

ublock is cheaper and actually works

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn't that interesting and relevant.

[–] alphabethunter 5 points 19 hours ago

That part of the support email almost made me puke of how fucking awful it was. "Why complain about ads when you get YouTube Music for free by paying us money"

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[–] ChapulinColorado 18 points 1 day ago

I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

[–] doughless 5 points 23 hours ago

Wait, I haven't seen ads on YouTube Premium (yet), and I'm just now realizing this could very likely be because Google knows my wife and I don't watch sports.

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[–] Treczoks 57 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Firebox mobile + unlock origin extension + YouTube.com.

You get everything that YouTube premium can offer. Including screen off play.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

personaldnsfilter + the Youtube app. Fuck ads.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Suckers paying for it

[–] Joelk111 149 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

[–] woelkchen 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?

Joel explains this in the second sentence: "I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers"

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[–] puntyyoke 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Reasonable advice, but I'd note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I'd rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn't perfect, I like the service enough that I don't mind paying for it.

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[–] Etterra 34 points 1 day ago
[–] dog_ 1 points 13 hours ago

Grayjay be like

[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess they are premium ads?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

this but unironically

advertisers paid a premium

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster

[–] atrielienz 1 points 1 hour ago

I love seeing a Big Hit reference. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who's ever seen that movie.

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[–] CosmoNova 6 points 23 hours ago

Good, I hope they raise pricing too and pay creators even less. Make it hurt. It's the only language users understand apparently.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

whos gonna prosecute any of this shit now

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Oh they will prosecute! They will prosecute people with adblocks and alternative clients.

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