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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

A technical note: they need to sort their communication out earlier, by the midterm congressional election. Apparently, their communication didn't reach the voters, and voters were in a mood for hearing sweet lies from a criminal oligarch. They need to think of how to change that...

US society needs to somehow withstand 2 years of Trump running loose.

One can also hope that some senators or representatives are old enough to retire (or courageous enough to defect), changing the composition of the Congress before that. That might prevent or slow Trump from steamrolling new laws into force, until something has been figured out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, Trump is stupid, but he's also self-centered. He's gonna care about making himself a dictator eventually, but he's got a lot of vengeance to start with. I don't think it's unreasonable to hope that we'll still have elections by 2026, and that there'll be a moment to throw a stick in the spoke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

They have their shit together. This is how they operate. Next election will be more of exactly the same.

[–] maplebar 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

At this point I don't blame Republicans, they are exactly the christo-fascist criminal hypocrites that they always have been.

At this point I don't blame Democrats, utterly underwhelming and politically ineffective as they are.

Nope. At THIS POINT I blame the lazy fat dumb-as-shit American fuckwad populace. "We The People" just gave knuckle-dragging fascist dipshits the keys to every branch of government as well as a mandate to do basically whatever the fuck they want for no reason other than the price of Doritos being higher. It turns out that the real enemy of the people is the American people themselves, who make the worst possible decisions and act against their own interest at every opportunity, only later to point fingers at the same politicians that they helped elect in the first place.

In other words, if you voted for anybody but Harris I can only say "fuck you, you deserve exactly whatever is coming".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Democrats dont fetishize about violence against minorities for "not voting right" challenge(impossible)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

I mean, the GOP has done everything in its power for several decades to undermine education and clinch a near-monopoly on TV and radio media. So I think we can blame them quite a bit for how idiotic and cultish the American people have become.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 9 hours ago

A lot of people here want their hands held all the way to the ballot box.

Being unenthusiastic and unimpressed with the Democratic party is apparently a completely valid reason to not vote, allow a trump win, and then blame the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So the Republicans are "knuckle-dragging fascist dipshits" but they aren't to blame? Wtf?

[–] samus12345 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They're evil, but they also would be completely powerless without American voters (and non-voters). Much like how the GOP enables Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The people in power doing the bad things are always to blame for the bad things they do.

[–] samus12345 2 points 11 hours ago

Partially to blame, yes. But they made no pretense of who they were and what they wanted to do. This is largely on the voters.

[–] samus12345 1 points 11 hours ago

It turns out that the real enemy of the people is the American people themselves

So Trump was right about the enemy within!

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 12 points 1 day ago

Power has been out of the hands of the people for a while now. SuperPACs influence the choice of candidates and lobbyists write the laws they pass.

[–] LustyArgonianMana 45 points 1 day ago (7 children)

"Trump can't actually do any of those horrible things," -friend who doesn't understand politics and hasn't been following anything

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[–] LovableSidekick 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Expecting the Dems to control the House, I was telling people not to worry, they can spend 2 years stonewalling anything the Senate wants to do, then regain control of the Senate in 2026, making Trump's second term mostly a bust. But now that MAGA has the whole Congress I think all bets and gloves are off. Might as well lose the pants too.

[–] RoidingOldMan 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Same thing happened in 2016. He got a few things done the first 2 years (the big tax cut was the main thing), then the Democrats got the House back in 2018 and he accomplished very little. Both impeachments happened after 2018.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That adorable friend should start voting in off years. There's going to be local elections next year at the very least.

[–] maplebar 11 points 1 day ago

Listen, I hate to break it to you... but we can't even get these clowns to vote on Presidential election years and now we have to try to convince them to vote during off years and special elections? Fat chance.

[–] Maggoty 132 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (19 children)

Act as if we will. No seriously like half of politics is the manifest will of the people. If you decide right now that Trump isn't going to do it then it's going to be normalized by 2026 and outrage will not occur. You need to expect the next election with all the force of reality you can muster.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Obviously they’ll run the election Russian-style, as Americans still like to think of themselves as free.

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[–] NicolaHaskell 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I started to prepare for 2026, but the thought that "Blue Wave!" fails is so preemptively humiliating that the only logical conclusion was to roll over and let the fascists ride on through 2028. I truly wish I could help or do anything at all but I'm safer here on the couch! Besides, The Capitalists rigged it all anyway. I think if I feel bad enough for anybody who isn't as safe and I starve, deprive, and isolate myself then I can make up for my own sense of helplessness.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Take heart, as long as there are people who are willing to stand against tyranny and fascism, there will always be hope. Every one of us, even the strongest of us, sometimes need to take some time off to recover - take all the time you need. Be with your loved ones, hold on to them tightly, and share your love as widely as you can. Spread love among your friends and co-workers as best you can. I know it sounds extremely corny, but love, and fighting for who we love, is how we will win.

We can’t vote our way out of this, but we can build a better future outside of the system and do everything we can to resist the state. That means that we might be left with no choice but to take risks and make sacrifices in the hope that the world we leave behind might start moving in the right direction.

Stay strong and hang in there. I love you, no matter who you are, or where you come from, or what you’ve done.

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