Google has no room to talk here with Android.
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2024
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or chromeos
Ironically a Linux-derived OS.
It's always good practice to be careful who you trust with your data. Open =/= private. More choices helps, though.
Android is very far from linux desktop. And it is private, its is google services that are bad, therefore we can have things like calyx and graphene os still be private.
Depends on how one frames it. It's not the Stallman-defined "GNU+Linux" pureblood OS, but it nevertheless is built from a modified version of the Linux kernel.
And like any OS it can be made private and secure with the right components...or it can be cracked open like a data-farming egg without them.
I guess I can just take the low-hanging fruit and invoke Ubuntu as an alternative example, which was once something of a Linux entry point but has become more than fine collecting user data.
Ironically a Linux-derived OS.
Nothing ironic about it. There's nothing mystical about Linux, it's just a kernel. The guy who made it says he doesn't care about anything but code.
Personally, I only care about the code. When I say maybe there are people who worry about walled gardens and cloud providers who take ownership of your data, I am not one of those people. That's not what I actually care about. That's not what I do. What I do is code. What I care about is code.
"derived" doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
More like "you guys have users?"
(I use Linux btw)
I was going to down vote you to oblivion but then saw you use Linux. You are allowed to diss on it then.
More like
Microsoft ... I make billions spying
Google .... I make billions spying
Apple .... I make billions spying
Linux .... you guys make money spying?
Linux .... you guys make money ~~spying~~?
apple doesnt make billions spying. facebook and amazon do of course too.
Apple made 4 billion in 2023 from selling advertisements on their devices. Sure, it's only ~1% of Google's ad business buts still technically billions
That’s not the same as spying. Apple famously doesn’t hand over user data to ad companies.
They are themselves an ad company though.
Yes, they do. They're just better at pretending they don't.
Facebook doesn't need to spy, the users give it up willingly.
They also spy, because just a few billion isn't enough
This is the correct answer. Facebook has third-party scripts all over the internet. I wish people would understand this — just because you’re not a Facebook user doesn’t mean Facebook (or anyone else) doesn’t track you.
I’m not sure about Facebook but tons of trackers are in apps too so the typical “use an adblocker” grumble isn’t even accurate either.
”only on the web”, …yeah right.
Who made this meme forgot about android lol
....and chromeOS
I feel like MS and Google should be switched. Web probably has more harvestable info. Plus phones.
The OS handles all the network requests, can take screenshots, and track your eyes
But yeah Google Linux is way more popular than Windows for personal use
Phones is absolutely a valid point these days, IMO OS > web + web browser in terms of what you can get.
MS and google both know what porn you are looking at. What you buy from your PC etc... MS knows how much time you are spending playing games + has screenshots of all your encrypted conversations etc...
There are so few native desktop apps these days, it's all on the web.
And the browser can glean a lot more about user interaction than just web traffic, like where you hover, what parts of the page you're interacting with, etc.
That's why I said that (combined with phone), Google probably knows more.
But it's probably a pretty close competition
spy
Spy ON.